FIRE Movement

The biggest problem I see is that many people are in a career they really don’t like
I wonder what percentage of America works for a living in a job they don't like, or even hate?
I used to be in that position; it's a tough road to hoe.

I really enjoyed being a lowly programmer.
 
There's a believe that during the first phase of lockdown many people lost their jobs, and found replacement jobs that are better, so now when the employers were calling them back they are not interested in going back because they are now in better places.

Of course the government cheese has something to do with it. When the gov cheese is out, we'll find out if this really is the main thing or if people really found a better job instead.
Well there's also a bunch of people that just decided to retire early. I've heard of a few people doing that. That's just anecdotal so hard to be sure.

As for the cheese, I thought that was already answered, a bunch of states stopped the extra $300 a week early and unemployment didn't really go down. I guess we'll get a better read on it next month as it basically just stopped a couple weeks ago nationally. As evidenced by today's big drop in the stock market, there's worry that economic activity is actually slowing down so that might also be a factor in hiring.
 
Sorta sounds like my friends that started using the SSRI drugs early. Now they have dementia--early.o_O
 
I wonder what percentage of America works for a living in a job they don't like, or even hate?
I used to be in that position; it's a tough road to hoe.

I really enjoyed being a lowly programmer.
I'm one, but it allows me to do a LOT of stuff that I do like. I've also worked jobs that I liked, but they did not offer that, and I do what I do by choice, so there's that.
 
The biggest problem I see is that many people are in a career they really don’t like but are making too much money to leave or start over in another career.

Example:
All the nurses (various specialties) I’ve asked with at least 20 years of experience if they could go back in time would they still choose nursing as a career..... 80% of these nurses said NO. Lots of burnout and stress as a nurse. I was asking nurses this question loooong before Covid even happened.


As for myself if I could go back in time:
I’d probably go into law enforcement, working undercover US Marshals / DEA agent riding with a fugitive outlaw, meth head biker gang that’s manufacturing and distributing crystal meth. I would ride a Harley, look like Dog the Bounty Hunter and wearing a wire to record all the illegal activities these criminals are committing.

Maybe flying a FedEx 777F..... maybe guitarist with Guns & Roses..... maybe QB for the New England Patriots.... ?

Something fun, exciting and enjoyable . ;)

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I work in healthcare. I think your 80% is very optimistic, rofl! That said...what ELSE would I do? The only thing I can think of that might work for me is being a doorkicker in Iraq when that kicked off. I think I'd have liked that very much. My friend circle who did that all loved it. That said, I am a different person today than I was when I was 18, and I think that who I was at 18, may not have enjoyed the thought of clearing houses as much as the 35 year old me perks up at it. But then... what would I segue into, in my civilian life after? I dunno. I have yet to find anything that would replace t he niche healthcare plays in my financial/work/life balance equation. Which is why I did it in the FIRST place. Money/Security vs. Time. It's a winner.
 
I'm one, but it allows me to do a LOT of stuff that I do like. I've also worked jobs that I liked, but they did not offer that, and I do what I do by choice, so there's that.
Good post. This is why I consider myself incredibly lucky. For me, writing large scale, complex business functionality applications is a blast. And the financial rewards turned out to be beyond my wildest dreams.

Congrats on your success and the will to contunue in a career that seems to be real work vs a pleasure... You sound bulletproof. In contrast, I am a lightweight.
 
Good post. This is why I consider myself incredibly lucky. For me, writing large scale, complex business functionality applications is a blast. And the financial rewards turned out to be beyond my wildest dreams.

Congrats on your success and the will to contunue in a career that seems to be real work vs a pleasure... You sound bulletproof. In contrast, I am a lightweight.
Lol, I dont want to continue. It's that I want to do other things that are predicated on continuing.
 
I guess my wife and I somewhat fall into this category, but it wasn't really a conscious decision based on any movement in particular.

I am honestly finding it hard to stay motivated. I have everything I have ever wanted, a house, a good wife, a somewhat cool car, and no debt. All I really want to do now is travel and see more of the world. My wife and I do not live a hermit lifestyle, but we do save a good amount of money, probably about 50-60% of our net income. Between our house appreciating and our other investments it is basically like having a third income. We have no kids and because of that plan to draw down our equity as we age, I don't see any reason to die with a bunch of money in the bank.

I just turned 40 and plan to hopefully retire one day before my 50th birthday. It may be a couple years sooner or later because obviously a lot can happen in ten years, but right now that is the target.
 
I dont go too into detail, but I already have a college degree and would rather just be shot than go back to college. Like, maybe not in the head, but yeah.
Hahah college is a waste today. My industry is involved with it and the current crop “being educated” has some people who are so dumb. Like i cant believe they can dress themselves stupid. They will eventually finish their state funded 4 year degree and get a job interview they don’t deserve.

For a lot of majors, 4 year college = wasted 4+ years instead of gaining technical or trade skills that have real value.
 
Hahah college is a waste today. My industry is involved with it and the current crop “being educated” has some people who are so dumb. Like i cant believe they can dress themselves stupid. They will eventually finish their state funded 4 year degree and get a job interview they don’t deserve.

For a lot of majors, 4 year college = wasted 4+ years instead of gaining technical or trade skills that have real value.
College is a necessary requisite in my world. I have a bachelor's.
 
College is a necessary requisite in my world. I have a bachelor's.
Is it really needed or just a gate keeper to an interview? For a lot of fields they just wont talk to anybody without the paper. Even when the quality being pushed out of lets say the bottom half of colleges is very low.
 
Is it really needed or just a gate keeper to an interview? For a lot of fields they just wont talk to anybody without the paper. Even when the quality being pushed out of lets say the bottom half of colleges is very low.
Well half of people who graduate don't get a job in their field. It can be seen as a gate keeper, lots of students end up partying at college instead of studying, one metric is whether they studied enough to graduate.

Maybe college gradates aren't what they used to be but perhaps the non degree holders are even worse.
 
Well half of people who graduate don't get a job in their field. It can be seen as a gate keeper, lots of students end up partying at college instead of studying, one metric is whether they studied enough to graduate.

Maybe college gradates aren't what they used to be but perhaps the non degree holders are even worse.
The successful non-degree holders have to work much harder to prove themselves in life. It simply cannot be seen as a measure of intellect. I'm talking about the ordinary public state funded take anybody with money schools, not the ivy league or highly selective schools.

I've hired both and the non degree people tend to work much harder. Society tells them their potential is lower and they must outperform.
 
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