Hybrids have largely been also rans and I don't understand why. They should have been kings of the road for several decades before a big push for all electric came to fruition. All EV at this point is cart before the horse.
The AC to DC conversion is pretty efficient, between 4% and 9% losses. However, that's not the entire story. There are charging and discharging losses, heat losses, cooling losses and even a static 0.3% per hour loss.The meters will never match as you converted AC from the utility to DC for your battery. The losses might only be 5(ish)% but that is a lot of energy over the 7 year life of the car (when the battery is dead)
Use a dedicated meter from the power company, and recalculate your electricity purchased per mile traveled after 1 year. The taxes, fees, charges, and other assessments add to the cost of electrical power. The losses will be about 20% in total, power purchased to power out of the battery in good weather, and worse in winter.Overnight/off-peak EV rates are $.0239/kWh where I live in Minnesota. 300 miles in a Model 3 will cost about $2.20 (plus a $4.25 monthly service fee).
Under $90 to go 12,000 miles.
You can already get very small solar panels, the problem is that the density of panels is limited, so you can only harvest so many watts per meter squared or per square foot. On top of that, as you alluded to, the further north you go, the less solar exposure you get. This is a 44MW commercial solar farm with trackers here in Ontario:I think solar has a place in the Sunny South and West. As Solar evolves, the panels will get smaller to the point where many will put them on homes.
Stop drinking the Fox Kool-Aid. They may even tell you that you have a stolen car.Filling a gas-powered vehicle can still be cheaper than charging an electric one.
""U.S. electricity prices, which are heavily regulated in most states, have remained stable, however, and the cost to charge an electric car is still much lower than filling up one with an internal combustion engine, but only if you have a place to plug it in at home or a lot of time on your hands.""
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/filling-gas-vehicle-cheaper-electric
That was a fair and factual article by Fox. It is true that some fast chargers cost a lot more per kwh than some other sources. This would effect people that would like to take their vehicles outside of a 150 mile radius (much less in winter sometimes) of their home or work charging which will be a requirement for people if the ICE vehicle is to be replaced by EV.Stop drinking the Fox Kool-Aid. They may even tell you that you have a stolen car.
Of course, it was not fair and factual. It is comparing a muscle car to a small hybrid crossover and, on top of that, looking for the highest-cost EV-charging station you can find. Even the Tesla Model 3, a really fast car, gets 50% more electricity mileage than the Ford Mustang Mach-E. This is how news become fake news.That was a fair and factual article by Fox. It is true that some fast chargers cost a lot more per kwh than some other sources. This would effect people that would like to take their vehicles outside of a 150 mile radius (much less in winter sometimes) of their home or work charging which will be a requirement for people if the ICE vehicle is to be replaced by EV.
Stop with the "Fox Kool-aid" balking nonsense, just makes you sound like a fool.
All have a 10-year/150,000-mile battery warranty if sold in California. That corresponds to a battery life of roughly 800 full charge/discharge cycles. Therefore, they need to design the batteries accordingly to comfortably last at least that long and probably about 50% more for most people:Many have an 8 year battery warranty.
Oh, the kickback! It's just information, and like all info, the reader takes what is useful and discards the rest. I had to go back and read the article after seeing the kickback. I can see the error in the article because they used the on road recharge price vs. the home price. Energy charges vary from state to state so the cost varies from state. Use, whatever, energy source you like, but, do not make low income people suffer by ,artificially, reducing the U.S. supply and preventing our ability to pipe Canadian oil into the U.S. Jacking the price of gas up, hurting poor American drivers, hurts all Americans.Stop drinking the Fox Kool-Aid. They may even tell you that you have a stolen car.
Even with my Prius Prime plug-in hybrid that gets 75 mpg on gas and 5.6 miles per kWh on electricity, it's 6.7¢ per mile with gas and 4.5¢ per mile with electricity; therefore, you pay 50% more with gas. 90% of cars don't even get half that gas mileage, and the drivers end up paying twice or more for fuel with gas! On top of that, electric cars are faster, more responsive, quieter, and cleaner, and there is no oil change or obsessing with oil.
Of course, you need to be able to charge at home overnight with the current technology. If you can't, electric cars are presently not for you. They will introduce true fast-charging in the next decade with solid-state batteries.
Interesting that they only list PZEV not ZEV, does that apply to ZEV as well?All have a 10-year/150,000-mile battery warranty if sold in California. That corresponds to a battery life of roughly 800 full charge/discharge cycles. Therefore, they need to design the batteries accordingly to comfortably last at least that long and probably about 50% more for most people:
https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/fact-sheets/california-vehicle-and-emissions-warranty-periods
Didn't VW offer 4 year unlimited charging on their ev'sTesla supercharging is still pretty affordable.
It’s so odd when people live in apartments and then buy electric cars and wait for an hour to charge at public chargers all the time.
I charged at home for pennies on the dollar with my Tesla.
Audi has free unlimited charging at their dealerships.Didn't VW offer 4 year unlimited charging on their ev's
I looked into it but nothing close here. Like 90 minutes away
Good question. I think not, but they want to have the same warranty for ZEV as well. Battery manufactures definitely aim for more than 80% capacity retention in 800 full cycles, which is about 150,000 miles for a typical configuration.Interesting that they only list PZEV not ZEV, does that apply to ZEV as well?
3 years on VWAudi has free unlimited charging at their dealerships.