The directions say 3/4 to a full turn after contacting the gasket. As long as you don't turn it more than a full turn, it should be Ok whether you use a wrench or not.
Favorite Oil Filter Wrench
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I have quite a few oil filter wrenches from when I was a tech and every car is different. So my favorite is whichever one works best on the car I have up in the air at that moment.
Originally Posted By: OilNerd
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I use this one too. The spring makes it hold on while you fidget to put the ratchet handle on it. The 3 clawed one always falls off on my cars. I have a craftsman one that just sits in my toolbox, never could get it to work one time.
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I use this one too. The spring makes it hold on while you fidget to put the ratchet handle on it. The 3 clawed one always falls off on my cars. I have a craftsman one that just sits in my toolbox, never could get it to work one time.
I had to buy my first filter wrench the other day. I've been changing oil/filters regularly for about 5 years now and have always been able to get them off by hand. On one of my cars I tried and tried then we tapped with a hammer and someone else gave it a go and got it first grab.
Yesterday I had to break down and get one. I called around O'reilleys for the Lisle and noone had it so went to AAP expecting to buy a plastic socket wrench most places carry. I went in with my filter in hand and dropped $5.49 on a metal socket wrench that fit the filter perfectly but was troublesome getting the ratchet affixed to it.
I think the cold weather does something to the gaskets, because I have never changed oil below freezing. The filter was a pain to get off and getting the new one on I had to apply some grunt just to get it to 3/4, but once again I forgot to clean the filter base. I always have the shop towel in hand ready to go, but as soon as the old filter comes off the new one goes on and I forget.
It really sucked having to drop some cash on a specialty tool. I'd have much rather spent double the amount and had a tool that would work on many cars to come, but for the price of a filter isn't too bad.
It is tough getting it on just right. Too much and difficulty removing and its not worth the risk of too little torque. But I guess one could torque it lightly by hand then warm up the car and go back underneath and check how much tighter it got. 6000 miles is too long to wonder if you got it tight enough.
My first oil change on this car the filter came off surprisingly easy as it just had about an inch of tension before it was relieved and spun off. It was done by a quickie lube, weird, as I hear they usually over power them.
Yesterday I had to break down and get one. I called around O'reilleys for the Lisle and noone had it so went to AAP expecting to buy a plastic socket wrench most places carry. I went in with my filter in hand and dropped $5.49 on a metal socket wrench that fit the filter perfectly but was troublesome getting the ratchet affixed to it.
I think the cold weather does something to the gaskets, because I have never changed oil below freezing. The filter was a pain to get off and getting the new one on I had to apply some grunt just to get it to 3/4, but once again I forgot to clean the filter base. I always have the shop towel in hand ready to go, but as soon as the old filter comes off the new one goes on and I forget.
It really sucked having to drop some cash on a specialty tool. I'd have much rather spent double the amount and had a tool that would work on many cars to come, but for the price of a filter isn't too bad.
It is tough getting it on just right. Too much and difficulty removing and its not worth the risk of too little torque. But I guess one could torque it lightly by hand then warm up the car and go back underneath and check how much tighter it got. 6000 miles is too long to wonder if you got it tight enough.
My first oil change on this car the filter came off surprisingly easy as it just had about an inch of tension before it was relieved and spun off. It was done by a quickie lube, weird, as I hear they usually over power them.
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The best tool I have ever encountered for removing STUCK oil filters:
LARGE jaw vise grip
It fits 3 1/8" OF's and all the smaller sizes. Locked on, it grips very well. But the best feature is that you can go both directions, IOW you can "rock" it forward and backward to break the seal without removing....often the best way to get a stuck fastener loose.
LARGE jaw vise grip
It fits 3 1/8" OF's and all the smaller sizes. Locked on, it grips very well. But the best feature is that you can go both directions, IOW you can "rock" it forward and backward to break the seal without removing....often the best way to get a stuck fastener loose.
JHZR2
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My wife's best friend's subaru uses one of those 14612 tiny filters.
I got the equivalent one at wal-mart out of a box, and tried the made-in-usa oil filter sockets. $3 later, I had a good tool to do it. I have one of those 3-sided pinchers. sometimes it is good, sometimes it slips, and it can be tough to get on firm, depending upon how the filter is set up. For the subaru, the filter is in a hole next to the exhaust pipes, so you can't use pliers or anything like that. When I did the original oil change, it was a real mess trying to get channel pliers in there...
By the way, look at the 14460, it is a larger diameter version of the 14612, the '612 being the equivlent of the subaru small filter (for NA engines) and the '460 being the equivalent of the larger subaru filter, for turbo engines. I put the '460 on her 09 NA impreza last night, seems fine.
The '460 may not have an ADBV, but if it is like on the subaru, where the filter is placed at the lowest point, and not on its side, I do not think it matters...
I got the equivalent one at wal-mart out of a box, and tried the made-in-usa oil filter sockets. $3 later, I had a good tool to do it. I have one of those 3-sided pinchers. sometimes it is good, sometimes it slips, and it can be tough to get on firm, depending upon how the filter is set up. For the subaru, the filter is in a hole next to the exhaust pipes, so you can't use pliers or anything like that. When I did the original oil change, it was a real mess trying to get channel pliers in there...
By the way, look at the 14460, it is a larger diameter version of the 14612, the '612 being the equivlent of the subaru small filter (for NA engines) and the '460 being the equivalent of the larger subaru filter, for turbo engines. I put the '460 on her 09 NA impreza last night, seems fine.
The '460 may not have an ADBV, but if it is like on the subaru, where the filter is placed at the lowest point, and not on its side, I do not think it matters...
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
My wife's best friend's subaru uses one of those 14612 tiny filters.
I got the equivalent one at wal-mart out of a box, and tried the made-in-usa oil filter sockets. $3 later, I had a good tool to do it. I have one of those 3-sided pinchers. sometimes it is good, sometimes it slips, and it can be tough to get on firm, depending upon how the filter is set up. For the subaru, the filter is in a hole next to the exhaust pipes, so you can't use pliers or anything like that. When I did the original oil change, it was a real mess trying to get channel pliers in there...
By the way, look at the 14460, it is a larger diameter version of the 14612, the '612 being the equivlent of the subaru small filter (for NA engines) and the '460 being the equivalent of the larger subaru filter, for turbo engines. I put the '460 on her 09 NA impreza last night, seems fine.
The '460 may not have an ADBV, but if it is like on the subaru, where the filter is placed at the lowest point, and not on its side, I do not think it matters...
My concern about using an oversized filter is warranty.
It may cause warranty issues with Nissan. Plus, if I get a defective filter, the warranty from the filter manufacturer is void since I would not be using the recommended filter.
Besides, I already have four Pureones in the 14612 size that I am stuck with.
My wife's best friend's subaru uses one of those 14612 tiny filters.
I got the equivalent one at wal-mart out of a box, and tried the made-in-usa oil filter sockets. $3 later, I had a good tool to do it. I have one of those 3-sided pinchers. sometimes it is good, sometimes it slips, and it can be tough to get on firm, depending upon how the filter is set up. For the subaru, the filter is in a hole next to the exhaust pipes, so you can't use pliers or anything like that. When I did the original oil change, it was a real mess trying to get channel pliers in there...
By the way, look at the 14460, it is a larger diameter version of the 14612, the '612 being the equivlent of the subaru small filter (for NA engines) and the '460 being the equivalent of the larger subaru filter, for turbo engines. I put the '460 on her 09 NA impreza last night, seems fine.
The '460 may not have an ADBV, but if it is like on the subaru, where the filter is placed at the lowest point, and not on its side, I do not think it matters...
My concern about using an oversized filter is warranty.
It may cause warranty issues with Nissan. Plus, if I get a defective filter, the warranty from the filter manufacturer is void since I would not be using the recommended filter.
Besides, I already have four Pureones in the 14612 size that I am stuck with.
My hand.....never found a better oil filter wrench yet.
I've used a cap type similar to the one in your first pic on the 14612 and 14610 without problem. It was an individual unit I picked up in one of the chain stores a while back
My favorite tool is a pair of channel locks.
The small filters of today,rarely require a tool for removal.
The small filters of today,rarely require a tool for removal.
I find my bigest problem with any of the filter removal tools is after I've finally wiggled my way under there the @$#%&#$*&% tool is 1 7/8 inches out of my reach. This seems to be true no matter what I've taken under there.
Wish I had the grip I had 5 or 10 years ago.
Wish I had the grip I had 5 or 10 years ago.
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Im just curious does the Oil filter "sockets" aka cap style work well on filters that are round? i find alot of filters that dont hasve any sort of edge on the end to get ahold of it's perfectly round. I dont see how a socket type could grip onto it? any good sources for vise grip style pliers?
Remember Critic's (dad's) car is still on the factory filter. We all know some gorilla torques those down.
Maybe he could get his first service with a $9.99 val-pak coupon somewhere? Then from then out use his bare hands. Or a tool he'll use once then always have... not a sad ending.
Of course with one of these sockets and a torque wrench BITOG may finally learn the break-loose torque of a Nissan factory filter.
Maybe he could get his first service with a $9.99 val-pak coupon somewhere? Then from then out use his bare hands. Or a tool he'll use once then always have... not a sad ending.
Of course with one of these sockets and a torque wrench BITOG may finally learn the break-loose torque of a Nissan factory filter.
Originally Posted By: ZZman
Just got this at Autozone:
Sebring club
That was what I used to get my factory Ford filter off (820S size). I bought/tried a strap wrench -- with no luck. I don't have enough room to come from the side with a large pliers or chain ratchet. A filter socket/wrench kept slipping. This 3-prong tool did the trick. However, before it was off, it actually crushed the filter, and it started leaking. I thought, "I have to get this darned thing off now!", and it finally gave loose. That was the worst ever. It took nearly an hour of wrenching.
Just got this at Autozone:
Sebring club
That was what I used to get my factory Ford filter off (820S size). I bought/tried a strap wrench -- with no luck. I don't have enough room to come from the side with a large pliers or chain ratchet. A filter socket/wrench kept slipping. This 3-prong tool did the trick. However, before it was off, it actually crushed the filter, and it started leaking. I thought, "I have to get this darned thing off now!", and it finally gave loose. That was the worst ever. It took nearly an hour of wrenching.
Originally Posted By: kkreit01
Originally Posted By: ZZman
Just got this at Autozone:
Sebring club
That was what I used to get my factory Ford filter off (820S size). I bought/tried a strap wrench -- with no luck. I don't have enough room to come from the side with a large pliers or chain ratchet. A filter socket/wrench kept slipping. This 3-prong tool did the trick. However, before it was off, it actually crushed the filter, and it started leaking. I thought, "I have to get this darned thing off now!", and it finally gave loose. That was the worst ever. It took nearly an hour of wrenching.
My worst was also with a Ford factory filter - 2008 f350 powerstroke. It was a good thing they have a remote filter setup on those because I had to hammer a screwdriver through it, then hammer an 18" breaker bar through that to get it off. I don't know what would have come next if the breaker bar hadn't been enough, probably snips and a lot of colorful words.
Originally Posted By: ZZman
Just got this at Autozone:
Sebring club
That was what I used to get my factory Ford filter off (820S size). I bought/tried a strap wrench -- with no luck. I don't have enough room to come from the side with a large pliers or chain ratchet. A filter socket/wrench kept slipping. This 3-prong tool did the trick. However, before it was off, it actually crushed the filter, and it started leaking. I thought, "I have to get this darned thing off now!", and it finally gave loose. That was the worst ever. It took nearly an hour of wrenching.
My worst was also with a Ford factory filter - 2008 f350 powerstroke. It was a good thing they have a remote filter setup on those because I had to hammer a screwdriver through it, then hammer an 18" breaker bar through that to get it off. I don't know what would have come next if the breaker bar hadn't been enough, probably snips and a lot of colorful words.
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