Fans ramp up when viewing live stream on YouTube, Fedora

BobsArmory

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First off, I'm running Fedora KDE latest version and Brave Browser. Everytime I watch Ryan Hall Yall on youtube live stream my fans ramp up to near max on my laptop and the keyboard gets hot. Is there a reason for this and can I do anything about it?
 
Do you have all the codecs installed? Been a while since I used Fedora but back then I had to add a different rpm repository to get proper codecs, stuff like "gstreamer-ugly" or whatever it is, a whole bunch of "non free codecs" is basically what the issue is, Fedora doesn't install them and you have to jump through hoops to get proper audio/video.

It might also be graphics/driver related but my first guess would be codecs.
 
hemioiler said:
Do you have all the codecs installed? Been a while since I used Fedora but back then I had to add a different rpm repository to get proper codecs, stuff like "gstreamer-ugly" or whatever it is, a whole bunch of "non free codecs" is basically what the issue is, Fedora doesn't install them and you have to jump through hoops to get proper audio/video.

It might also be graphics/driver related but my first guess would be codecs.
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I'll look into that.
 
Enable hardware acceleration in your browsers.
" If you have an AMD GPU, the default drivers might lack video acceleration functionality. Install mesa-va-drivers-freeworld to ensure proper hardware decoding."
If not enable cpu power to set or change the fan speed. On occasion it's a kernel issue so I'd open a terminal and type sudo dnf upgrade.
Third have you pulled the bottom cover off of your laptop? I had an HP years ago with a similar issue. The fan had accumulated so much dust that there was very little airflow, so at higher power use it would run fast. I used a compressed air can and q tips to clean it out. Why there isn't dust screen is beyond me.
 
Rand said:
whats the hardware? youtube is likely h.264 or VP9 compression
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about.webp
 
Do you have the Intel media driver Installed?
That enabled hardware vp9 decoding for Intel arc in linux

Hardware seems more than plenty but appears to be using software decoding
 
BobsArmory said:
First off, I'm running Fedora KDE latest version and Brave Browser. Everytime I watch Ryan Hall Yall on youtube live stream my fans ramp up to near max on my laptop and the keyboard gets hot. Is there a reason for this and can I do anything about it?
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Try this.-

Identify graphics information in Linux​

To detect the graphics hardware in your system, use this command:

> lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'
There is a helpful page from Intel
Intel graphics driver updates for Linux
Then try in a terminal
Sudo dnf upgrade --refresh
Sudo reboot
To update proprietary graphics drivers type-
Sudo akmods --force
 
"Fedora", "KDE" and "Brave" and then the combinations of these all lead me to suspicion about video hardware acceleration and whether or not any of these components or their inter-workings are properly using your video chip's horsepower.

My first step would be to open Brave and type brave://gpu in the address bar. Look at the Graphics Feature Status; specifically, look for Video Decode. If it says "Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled," the CPU is indeed doing all the work, which causes the heat.
 
I forgot to give you an update. Opened up the back of the laptop and blew out the fans (should have taken a pic). She was pretty clogged so it was good that I did that. Helped a bunch. Just out of curiosity I put in a different empty drive and loaded CachyOS. Similar heat load compared to Fedora with the fans cleaned. Thanks for the tips people.
 
KDE is also on Wayland according to this screenshot and I am not sure if they've sorted themselves out properly with that yet.

OP maybe try logging out and at the login screen trying to select an X11 session instead of Wayland? Although Fedora may have gone Wayland-only recently.

I really believe this is about the system simply not using GPU acceleration properly. Your hardware looks fine.
 
uc50ic4more said:
KDE is also on Wayland according to this screenshot and I am not sure if they've sorted themselves out properly with that yet.

OP maybe try logging out and at the login screen trying to select an X11 session instead of Wayland? Although Fedora may have gone Wayland-only recently.

I really believe this is about the system simply not using GPU acceleration properly. Your hardware looks fine.
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Starting with Fedora 43, its Wayland only. Current stable is 44.

It's been rock solid on many different mini pc's and laptops that I have used it on.
 
ka9mnx said:
Maybe different today but in the past KDE wasn't a light weight desktop.
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Relative to today's hardware levels, it is smooth on just about anything. Some would say its "bloated" in comparison to Xfce, LXDE or the likes but those are specifically meant to be lightweight first and foremost.

OP has 32GB of RAM and 20-threads of a 4 year old CPU. He is not resource limited in the slightest.
 
Lawnman23 said:
Starting with Fedora 43, its Wayland only. Current stable is 44.

It's been rock solid on many different mini pc's and laptops that I have used it on.
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LOTS of applications, though, still need X11 sessions. Usually apps not native to either Gnome or KDE. I don't know about Brave.

EDIT: I don't hear "Fedora" and "Stable" used together a lot!
 
Lawnman23 said:
And that is exactly what Xwayland is for.

https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/book/Xwayland.html

https://itsfoss.com/news/kde-plasma-to-drop-x11-support/
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Oh, I wish that was even reasonably effective with some legacy applications. Even NVIDIA cards needed x11 to run properly up until just about a year or two ago. I still have to use it on Debian Stable for Zoom. And RealVNC, if I am not mistaken. My screen capture app needs x11. I feel like we're absolutely in the end game, here; and I cannot wait.
 
uc50ic4more said:
Oh, I wish that was even reasonably effective with some legacy applications. Even NVIDIA cards needed x11 to run properly up until just about a year or two ago. I still have to use it on Debian Stable for Zoom. And RealVNC, if I am not mistaken. My screen capture app needs x11. I feel like we're absolutely in the end game, here; and I cannot wait.
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VNC eh? Unfortunately that's always been hot garbage, RDP (again, very unfortunately) has always been the better protocol. I've used that for years on linux as well just because the latency and performance is so much better. My servers have XRDP and I just tunnel through an SSH session to reach them.

Gnome 50 has really good support for this now too, you can login from one gnome session to another gnome 50 session over RDP and even have animations enabled, it's quite decent over the local network.

If you need to stay on debian stable then yeah you probably don't have much choice at this point, but newer distros you should be able to completely drop X. I've been on it now for about 2 years, ever since getting high dpi screens and trying to mix them with older stuff and needing different scaling on different monitors, X just can't keep up anymore.
 
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