Fact or Fiction about Pennzoil YB

[BrianWC]

Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: BrianWC
Try a search for "Pennzoil sludge" on here. This rumor has to be batted down about once every week or two. People misunderstand oil terminology and think it has large quantities of candlewax in it.
Actually crude oil has paraffin in it . With the GpII GPII+ on up it is converted by hydroisomeration [sp]to a real good oil. Paraffin as crude oils go is the best of the best. Pennzoil is GPII+ oil hence the pure base trademark for their oil. Chevrons is isosyn.


That's what I said in my next post.

 

[StevieC]

How do you like the Subie? Does that have the Horizontally opposed pistons?

 

[webfors]

My 2001 elantra drank atf like a drunken college student. I wasn't into fluids then, and bitog wasn't even on my radar... after 3 years on a 4 year lease I bought out the lease and returned the car for a nice fat loss. I figured better return it then be out the cost of a tranny after the warranty was up.

Now, had I been a bitoger, would of used a quality fluid and ran out the lease and saved my cash.

See.. bitog SAVES us money.. unlike what others say

 

[StevieC]

Thats why I donated some money to them... It saved me much more than that... If I can get to 500,000KM on my truck using the info I learned here, I think I have done well.

I had no idea about oil before... My dad is a very good mechanic and very old school, but to him Oil is Oil. Change it every 3K miles (5,000KM) and don't worry about it.

I'm on here to prove him wrong kinda!

 

[crazymagman]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
Am I reading this right? He put water in the Crank Case? ***?



haha, Kendall might as well be water!!! [censored] isn't coming near any of my cars again!!

Oh my, I just went back through the posts and saw he did wash out his engine with water....... UNBERIEVABLE!!!

Mike

 

[StevieC]

 

[SinisterK9]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
Aren't Taurus's for people who have given up on life?

Just Kiddin' They are quite reliable cars! My uncle had one and drove the snot out of it, and it gave him 400,000km before he was in an accident.


It's all good. I never would have bought a Taurus if it wasn't a SHO. But to each his own. It used to be the most popular car in the U.S. for years.

The Taurus Car Club of America site ( http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php? ) is a wealth of knowledge for all generations of the car, and it's Sable counterpart. It's a surprisingly large site with tons of info. I use the sight to find info from how to replace a power antenna, to modifications, parts etc. But I use SHO specific sites for performance upgrades etc.

 

[StevieC]

SinisterK9 I was just kidding... They were great cars, not the most attractive (SHO aside because it's more dressed up)...

People could make fun of my Chop-stick SUV from Hyundai...

Heres to you

 

[SinisterK9]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
SinisterK9 I was just kidding... They were great cars, not the most attractive (SHO aside because it's more dressed up)...

People could make fun of my Chop-stick SUV from Hyundai...

Heres to you

It's cool Stevie, that's why I said it's all good. I thought it was funny either way.

Cheers.

 

[StevieC]

 

[BrianWC]

Taurus was a fine car. Nothing special...but a used late model Taurus would be a good buy right now. I had one as a rental, once, and drove it all over central Tennessee. Not bad at all.

 

[StevieC]

They were comfortable... I would know comfortable, I spend most of my day on the road... My Santa Fe is comfy... But a Tarus us like driving a couch!

 

[Mystic]

I can't figure out why so many people, especially people like mechanics who should know better, always seem to have this idea that Pennzoil (and sometimes they say Quaker State also) causes sludge and contains all kinds of wax.

If something was seriously wrong with Pennzoil people would know it. As far as I know it is still the best selling motor oil in America. There would be all kinds of engines ruined all over the place.

I think this is how this silly idea spreads. Mechanics see an engine with a lot of sludge build up. They ask the owner, who probably neglected his oil changes, what kind of oil he used. Now, with Pennzoil being the number one selling oil there is a good chance the guy used Pennzoil. Any oil can be ruined by improper oil change intervals. If the mechanics ask the guy how often did he change his oil do you think he will admit it was not very often, if at all?

So the mechanics start spreading the rumor of how Pennzoil causes sludge. They fail to notice the fewer number of cars and trucks with ruined engines where Valvoline or Castrol or whatever was used. They are not going to notice as many cars and trucks like that because, guess what, fewer car and truck owners are using an oil other than Pennzoil.

Pennzoil regular motor oil always seems to look pretty good in VOAs and UOAs that people turn in here. Usually the UOAs look good unless there is another problem like antifreeze getting into the oil.

 

[StevieC]

It's okay that they think this way 'cos it keeps the price down... Let them get too confident about their brand and they will raise the price like M1 etc...

It's [censored]... Lets keep thinking that, like Super-Tech. Garbage man!

hehehehe I hope their not watching!

 

[ChiTDI]

[ The guy didn't like either oil. Both good, IMHO.
What oil did he "promote"? [/quote]

He didn't promote any actually. He just made his statement about YB, and he was against the Kendall because he doesn't believe in using syn blends. [/quote]

Interesting. It was a Ford service manual from an '03 F150 that stated to use only a 5w20 syn blend that came to memory when I read your post. Don't know if that applies to the Taurus issue at all, thought I might have missed some new developments.

 

[ChiTDI]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
Am I reading this right? He put water in the Crank Case? ***?



Where's the youtube camera when you need it?

 

[PF52]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
I think this is how this silly idea spreads. Mechanics see an engine with a lot of sludge build up. They ask the owner, who probably neglected his oil changes, what kind of oil he used. Now, with Pennzoil being the number one selling oil there is a good chance the guy used Pennzoil.


I think you're right. Actually, most people probably have no idea what oil is in their engine, so when asked, they just guess and mention the only oil they've likely ever heard of - Pennzoil.

I honestly never heard of the "Pennzoil Myth" until getting on the internet for the first time back in 2001 or so. I've yet to read any real "evidence" of sludge caused by Pennzoil; its all just rumors. Everyone "knows someone" who used Pennzoil and got sludge, or "saw" some old sludged-up engine that "supposedly" used Pennzoil. The reality of those anecdotal stories is that the cars in question were probably old beaters with severe OCI neglect, broken thermostats and plugged PCV valves.

 

[Quest]

Here in this land of information freedom, people fall for the heresays without using their logic (or their brains, however you like to interpret it).

I just happen to enjoy all these rumours spread around RE: Pennzwax, etc. all these years and still can't get enuf of it from time to time. Funny that (a) there are so many "self-proclaimed" engineers, mechanical experts, etc. whose are so ill-informed (or stubborn-minded) that they would just keep on repeatedly spreading these rumours again and again w/o even thinking critically; (b)too many backyard mechanics or dealership trained ones, again, cannot even think straight (must be smoking something) and when an engine sludged up, they instantly accuse that either the auto manufacturer is at fault, or the oil is to blame for (REMEMBER: a car will just sit there doing nothing unless the car owner takes it out for a drive).

My point is that other than occasional hiccups on the oil blender/oil company side, pretty much most of the oil sludging fault lies on the car owner's side (and also the mechanics who services them). I'm still getting the same old entertaining look here in beaverland when I queried the service tech writer/mech in various different dealerships as to why they do not stock a common item such as PCV valves, and they either claimed that there's not such thing called a PCV valve (big slap in their face) or they would give me that funny, ignorant look as to why someone would bother to replace/service the PCV valve.

Funny that NA is one of the biggest automobile operating region in the world, yet technically-speaking, car owners and service mechanics knowledge are so lagging behind.

Now, what about Pennzwax?

Q.

 

[Audi Junkie]

When the mechanic sees the sludged ungine, they ask the leading question of "did you *ever* use any Pennzoil"? The owner hesitiates then answers "maybe". Mystery solved by those brilliant mechanics.

 

[FrankN4]

Originally Posted By: RF Overlord
Originally Posted By: SinisterK9
"It caramelizes and turns every thing in the engine brown."
I didn't realise one of YB's ingredients was sugar...


I was watching the news and they spoke of the price of "sweet oil" Maybe Pennzoil YB is made from sweet oil