The key with those composite plastic housings is to lube the threads and the o ring, and look carefully at how the o ring makes the seal. On our '17 Wrangler with the Pentastar, the filter cap tightens till there is no gap between the housing and the cap, the o ring is between the sides of the cap and the inside of the housing, it does not have to be compressed like a regular style metal filter to make the seal. Just get it seated and snug, is all. Some people tighten these as if they were a traditional oil filter, but the way they seal is different.I agree. Whatever the spec is, the dealer grossly over-tightened it. I replaced with aluminum just to avoid any potential cracks or failures from the abuse, and because aluminum was available for the Tundra engine.
Composite isn’t, in itself, a bad design choice. I put new composite housings on my both of my 2002 Volvos in 2007, when I bought them. Oil change goons had used pump pliers on them and gouged them up.
Those composite filter housings look great over 14 years, and roughly 25 oil changes, later. Torqued to spec with a proper tool, composite housings work great. But they can be damaged by goons with a wrench.
Most of the time the breakage is because someone tightened it down too tight. On Toyota it is 18ft pounds or 25NM and the threads stay dry if you put something on the threads my guess is it would need to be less. I always advise to replace with metal. I myself have cracked my fair share of them so that way there is guaranteed to be no issues. Also people use the wrong tools on them all the time too causing breakage.The key with those composite plastic housings is to lube the threads and the o ring, and look carefully at how the o ring makes the seal. On our '17 Wrangler with the Pentastar, the filter cap tightens till there is no gap between the housing and the cap, the o ring is between the sides of the cap and the inside of the housing, it does not have to be compressed like a regular style metal filter to make the seal. Just get it seated and snug, is all. Some people tighten these as if they were a traditional oil filter, but the way they seal is different.
Yes I have heard about those. Definitely not simple like most.On the Chrysler ones its the same spec. 18 ft lbs but if you choke up on the ratchet you will feel when its seated and won't overtighten it. With delicate stuff I always use a short 3/8ths ratchet for tightening. If you crack one of these it's a big job because the oil filter housing is part of the oil cooler assembly and that can't be changed without removing both the lower and upper intake manifolds on the Pentastar.
Thanks bud! We’ve had a lot of fun driving the 4Runner around town, and on a couple of road trips to Memphis and N. IN.TL Did R.
Believe me, I agree with you.I'd dial back the A/T tires, Toyo makes the Open Country HT/2 (sweet) which makes alot more sense on your set-up.
Have these tires on Lexus with refurbished stock chrome rims and 20mm spacers, small 3/4" spacers give that subtleI'd dial back the A/T tires, Toyo makes the Open Country HT/2 (sweet) which makes alot more sense on your set-up.
Thanks for the comments.I had a first generation 4runner - 1987. Had it for 5 years, beat the heck out of it and never had anything break or any other issues. I loved it. Great vehicle for it's intended purpose. Held it's value well and I sold it for a very good price too.
In recent years I've thought about getting another one but two things hold me back. The handling leaves much to be desired. That's just the nature of things that have a primary design goal of being a rugged off-road vehicle. But the main reason I haven't bought one is that they don't have particularly good crash test ratings. Take a look at the small overlap IIHS pics.
For a vehicle that won't ever be used off road (2wd) and is your wife's DD it seems like a very odd choice.
When the redesign comes out in 2 years I hope they keep the body on frame architecture while improving the on road dynamics and the crash protection.
That would be great.I didn't mean to impugn your decision making, and your explanation makes sense. It's a great vehicle and one of the very few with all of those attributes. But I still disagree somewhat regarding the crash worthiness. There are always anecdotal examples to support any position and I'm not saying the 4Runner is a death trap - just not as safe as some more modern designs.
IIHS crash testing uses real world crash data to help them design their tests, hence the moderate overlap and later the small overlap test. In fact they are supposed to have a new test for 2022 based on their ongoing research. Any high speed crash is going to be a mess but some vehicles are going to protect the occupant better than others. I am certain that the next generation 4Runner will be significantly improved in that area.
It will look pretty sweet! And she’ll definitely be able to hop some curbs at Kroger and flex on some folks down at Target, right?