I respect your concept of what an overall quality of life is, which happens to be different from mine, and from what most studies on the matter conclude, but you saying my statement is ''media stories'' needs to be set straight. The conclusions, what I put in bold, to quote the source which I linked to,''reflect the gold standard in international comparisons, ''..... ie, not media stories. That's all I'll say about that, we will each draw different conclusions on what makes us most happy/content/secure. Back to losing sleep over the ****ty quality oil filters they have over here.Yeah, your response is media stories.
The most unreliable void of facts information source out there.
The quality of life is much better here in the United States and equal to and better then the top three countries listed in the chart I posted previously.
As far as the income, we are tied for first place. Come on you’re ready we will never convince each other otherwise so I’ll bow out of this to be with you.
How can I take a personal?
All you have to do is look at the factual income chart that I posted in my previous post.
So, instead of listening to media reports which sadly the public does, one needs to look up the factual data.
By the way, how many people in the United States look to go to the EU for surgery? LOL!
The wealthy EU residents come to the United States and that is fact.
Actually the rest of the world looks to come here too, with political repercussions from their home country but the USA health care system is a mess right?
Europe has fallen behind America and the gap is growing
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The problem that I have with your statement is the wording "If we fail to educate our people"....many people in America spend years in school and fail to get educated. It's not like we're not spending plenty on 'education'.
People have a personal responsibility to take advantage of the opportunity given to them and many in America don't. Remember the old saying ..."You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink".
This is it exactly. And a large large portion of it, is the fact kids take courses they like, and not necessarily the best courses that will allow them to earn a lucrative living. They come out "educated" for nothing but nonsense.
Far too many kids go to college to party, and enjoy the lifestyle that many of these college campuses provide. They take silly courses that they think are fun, but will provide them with little to nothing to prepare for a future in the work marketplace.
Political science, and many others make for interesting classroom discussion. But will get you nowhere in a job interview. Just look at some of these money wasters. It's hard to believe classes like these even exist in a college. Yet they do.... And kids line up to take them.
https://bestlifeonline.com/funniest-college-courses/
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There’s a good Mexican restaurant on 8th St SE.What in the cornbread heck does the District of Columbia "Produce" in terms of goods and useable services??
OMG do I agree with you, even more so because I know personally and intimately (I cant stress that enough) many first hand stories of hard working students some from the time they are in grade school and everything in-between all the way up to colleges, some IVY League.... latest was Harvard this year.
Most all came from what we would call third world countries, in my world that is Asia. Some from dirt poor farming families (in the extreme sense) to some very elite families.
One thing that they all had in common when coming here, 1st they had to earn it and get on a list, 2nd they cherished the opportunities here, they dream of coming here to the USA where they KNOW every oppertunity exists if they work hard and they KNOW what working hard means.
3rd and this is key and you hit it on the head, the family structure from where they come from is education. The parents are tuned into the kids, education is of the utmost importance in a family structure and it's evident in SAT scores all over this country regarding who works hard at studying.
I and I suspect like you get sick of excuses at what "we fail to" that is wrong, its a BS excuse. If you fail, then it's your fault and the fault of your parenting and participation in school.
This excuse stuff drives me NUTS and social media is killing the youth by teaching them its someone else fault for their failures and their parents failures. It's laughable, Im not responsible for someone else survival and that is what is going wrong in society. We are in the animal kingdom make fun at this statement but it's up to you to survive anything else is servitude. I sometimes think this is a plan by certain groups, control vs free. (no politics)
Tell me you've never looked at a college course signup and requirements without telling me you haven't. You decided to nickpick elective courses that are worth 1 credit hour and think those are serious classes that are used towards an accredited degree. Meanwhile your asbestos, lead, and plastic generation decides to turn education into a business, outsource jobs to other countries in search of personal wealth, bombs every other third world country, and leaves us with a 20 year occupation spanning multiple countries and leaves millions of dollars worth of military hardware to the Taliban. Yet somehow, people manage to blame the 9-year boom and bust cycle of the USA that has started since the 1800s on the new generation of peoples.
I guess you dont believe in being free and free will to vote?
The majority voted for all you speak of. Maybe instead of sitting in an arm chair one might want to get those who feel like you do to the voting booth. Your views are so backwards and you dont appreciate the fact that you live in the most powerful nation of earth, the one that enabled other countries to free their people and help protect them from evil empires?
You lack of understanding and appreciation of how previous generations have made your life so pathetically easy shows how deficient we have allowed the school system to get that you were not taught, or you were indoctrinated somewhere along the line to think this way.
The only blame here are the ones who thinks it's a mean, cruel unfair world out there because they are free to make what they want of their lives.
( no offense just discussing though it may sound harsh to the bitterness you show)
I'm quoting my own post because 'personal responsibility' starts before college. Remember that I posted
earlier about students in Baltimore entering high school with a 3rd grade reading level and none being proficient in math. I'd bet that Baltimore (like most other big cities with similar outcomes) spend plenty per student annually. It's not like we're not investing enough in education but rather that a lot of students go to school for reasons other than learning. I believe it's a 'cultural' thing and our government has exacerbated the problem with their 'social engineering'.
I can agree on this, the big problem is we are the government and this is the price we pay in the way we vote, as the majority rules.
It's not the government, it's the voters fault. We love to blame the government that we the people hire.
Its like the CEO of a major corporation passing blame for the failure of his company from the corporate staff to the buyers of the product.
I don't believe in being free and free will to vote? Did you see any of the post from other members who want to restrict voting rights with literacy test like we're in the 1900s again and yet you want to tell me my views are backwards? Unlike most of the people here complaining about voting, I served my time in the infantry and earned my right to be free and vote but I don't go around acting all high and mighty while gatekeeping voting rights.
The majority voted for politicians that said great promises and did nothing (which is nothing new for a politician.) I highly doubt people who voted for Bush Jr would imagine a 20 year conflict. Yet a citizens in a country like France will actually kick out bad politicians. Not in America though, nope they're labeled as activists and looked down upon.
My understanding and appreciation of the biggest technological advancement in human history is done in regard to those who actually made it happen, but some of the members on here act as the technological advancements they grew up with is good enough for everyone else. Like their own * don't stink. Maybe the folks who were sitting in an arm chair have finally gotten out and started voting and voicing their opinions.
You miss my point. Education is key.
When "we provide the tools" and so many refuse to use them maybe it's time to rethink the system.
Most of the Asians who are very successful in America were educated in America....which shows that the educational opportunity is there. When people put basketball, football etc....over education it shows in our falling scores. I think we should bring back the 'draft' to instill some dicipline in our youth....and yes....woman should be included.
I am not sure who you are talking about, but the CA University System generates more engineers, doctors and technical grads than anywhere in the world. Grads win the most Nobel Prizes and Patents; there is so much more.
By the way, I am proof the education exists. I am a product of it; I got my 1st degree at 40. Anywhere else I would likely have been relagated to a much different life. Education is definitely here. Come visit our Community Colleges. They are packed with people investing in themselves. Many are fresh out of the military, like my grand niece. Nursing, automotive tech, computer science, agriculture; the opportunities go on and on. Life long education as well; I just attended an Astronomy lecture at Foorhill College.
It's not that simple. Like everything else, what matters more is how it's paid for. Too many today are borrowing money they don't have. To be trained for jobs that no longer exist. Or have a low demand for applicants.
Then they have no way to earn a living. Let alone earn a living AND pay back their student loan debts. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, are in this position as we speak. Their degrees aren't helping them one bit...... Except to become potential Democratic voters. Much like everyone else that runs, jumps, or swims over here.
No thanks. I've served with some extremely undisciplined folks who I wouldn't trust to operate a tape dispenser or a mop, much less a rifle. Don't need them or want any more of them in. Military should always be kept as a volunteer force.
EDIT: But on the flip side, it could bring in a much needed variety of different skillsets and expertise.
Stop with the political hit job. No one twists arms to take out loans. In fact, I am a proponent of teaching personal finance starting in grade school so people have an idea what they are getting into. That's another reason education is key. I worked 50+ hours per week and took 3 and 4 classes per week. I pressured my companies to pay for part or all of my tuition.
I am a fiscal conservative and teach family and friends how to prepare for the future. And I pay more taxes than most people make. It's a great problem to have.
Taking extreme cases and considering them the norm shows a lack of understanding.
Mentoring is a highly rewarding experience.
