I'm going to help you out and save you some money. I have tried just about every type of ecig...Blu, 510, Volcano, you name it, I've tried it. I switched to that Ego C because they are made by Joyetech, original starters of the ecig, parts are all interchangable and it works like the tank system. With the smaller ecigs, you will be constantly either re-juicing them or swapping out endcaps. You have to take supplies with you and the batteries don't last. With an ecig, you have three parts: battery, atomizer and source. This system uses rechargable batteries, I've had mine for almost a year, no problems. The atomizer is interchangable. Problem with those other ecigs, you can't replace the atomizer and that's the part that will wear out the quickest. YOu can get a pack of atomizers, 5, for about 25 bucks. An atomizer will typically last you about a month. Not expensive at all. The batteries on those toher ones are very small and don't last. With the Ego, they will typically last you all day on one charge.
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I weening myself off cigs by using E-Cigs. Because I smoke a very low nicotine cigarette I'm using the no nicotine cartridges.
On the juices, there are two types: PG and VG. Use VG, it's vegetable grade glycerin. That is the carrier of the nicotine and what gives you the flavor. VG is also a little thicker than PG and on a tank system, the PG will be more likely to develope leaks. On the nicotine mg, I use 18 and I was about a pack a day smoker and that works well for me and other friends that I turned on to this ecig. Anything stronger than that is too over whelming. This stuff will not give you the shakes and will crave your nicotine requirements. As time goes on, you will use it less and less. Regardless, you're going to have to go through a learning curve. Sometimes they will leak a little and you have to clean it from time to time. But TRUST ME, sit down with it and get to know it and you'll figure it out and then you stop and look at all the cigs you didn't smoke, and those problems just won't compare. Think about all the money you'll save. I haven't smoked since Nov. this year and haven't looked back. You will more than likely have a slight cough for a few months, but that is normal. What's happening is you cilia in your lungs is starting to work again and it's cleaning out all the [censored] that regular smokes had put down your windpipe all those years. This is typical and will go away. You won't BELIEVE how your sense of smell and taste will return. Use the ecig for about two weeks straight, then walk into a bar. You will be amazed how you lived with that funk all these years and you'll also be amazed how many smokers will come up to you and ask about your ecig....great converstation starting if your picking up chicks!!!!! I'm here to tell you to disregard the nay sayers and get on board. These things work and DO NOT BUY THOSE DISPOSABLE ONES. They are cheap, don't last and lord only knows where the juice was produced. This company makes their own juices in N.C. and not in China. I can't tell you enough how much better you'll feel.
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
Originally Posted By: BrownBox88
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
X2, Tobacco, like Apple Pie, Is Historically an American Tradition.
Funny how Virgina Shade Tobacco built this country, and now the Country is against it.
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
X2, Tobacco, like Apple Pie, Is Historically an American Tradition.
Funny how Virgina Shade Tobacco built this country, and now the Country is against it.
Originally Posted By: BrownBox88
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
My father-in-law died a long and agonizing death from cancer. A full body MRI showed cancer in his brain, feet and everywhere in between. It wasn't pretty. He probably went through about 10 rounds of chemo. Back when he started smoking, at about age 13, smoking was supposed to be healthy. Heck, Ronald Reagan used to advertise for Chesterfield cigarettes.
Of course, today we know better. My father-in-law had an excuse for taking that very first puff. It was cool, allegedly healthy and they just didn't know any better.
My daughter graduated from high school a couple of months ago and she has some close friends who just started smoking. They've seen all the anti-smoking videos at school from an early age and yet they just had to start smoking. Even if it had no ill health effects, and we know it does, I don't know how they can afford to start smoking.
In this day and age, what is their excuse?
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
My father-in-law died a long and agonizing death from cancer. A full body MRI showed cancer in his brain, feet and everywhere in between. It wasn't pretty. He probably went through about 10 rounds of chemo. Back when he started smoking, at about age 13, smoking was supposed to be healthy. Heck, Ronald Reagan used to advertise for Chesterfield cigarettes.
Of course, today we know better. My father-in-law had an excuse for taking that very first puff. It was cool, allegedly healthy and they just didn't know any better.
My daughter graduated from high school a couple of months ago and she has some close friends who just started smoking. They've seen all the anti-smoking videos at school from an early age and yet they just had to start smoking. Even if it had no ill health effects, and we know it does, I don't know how they can afford to start smoking.
In this day and age, what is their excuse?
That's a good question. When I started, it was very similar to your FIL, then playing drums in smoke filled clubs and auditoriums for years, both parents smoked, it all just kind of fell into place. My father died along the same lines as your FIL, by the way. Seriously, without the ecig, I don't think I could have stopped cold turkey as I did. Of course, that will lead to the argument of not actually quitting, just replacing. I beg to differ with anyone on this matter, more so with a non-smoker. Sure, the habit is bad, but it's just that, a bad habit. Moreso harder to break. Honestly, I didn't want to quit. Both my father and grandfather died from this, but I still wanted to smoke. I know, pretty messed up. But, the ecig actually helped me.
The habit of us humans smoking is not going to fade. People will stop here and there but it will never fade....unless the government does something. Kids are going to do what they want because they enjoy it. Being an alcoholic is just as bad as being a everyday smoker, I don't understand why there aren't as much anti-alcohol campaigns as much as there are tobacco.
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Originally Posted By: Schmoe
I'm jumping in on here, this is one thing I know about. Nicotine is NOT a carcinogen under OSHA or IARC. The carcinogens are produced when nicototine is combusted along with the other chemicals that are added by the manufacturer. This effect is known as co-carcinogen.
Historically you're correct. But there have been several recent studies that suggest it is a carcinogen.
I'm jumping in on here, this is one thing I know about. Nicotine is NOT a carcinogen under OSHA or IARC. The carcinogens are produced when nicototine is combusted along with the other chemicals that are added by the manufacturer. This effect is known as co-carcinogen.
Historically you're correct. But there have been several recent studies that suggest it is a carcinogen.
After reading Schmoe's positive e-cig experience and wanting to kick dip for a while now, my curiosity got the better of me and I decided to try an e-cig today. I bought a Nicotek menthol starter kit at a local convenience store, which was $20. It includes a battery, USB charger, and two cartridges. This is an entry level cartridge only design, no tank or easy way to refill the cartridges, but I figured the $20 cost to start was low enough to try and not be too bummed if I didn't like it. So far though, I actually like it.
I got the 1.8% nicotine cartridges, which are "strong." I wouldn't want to go lower than that (yet), but the nicotine content of dip is pretty high and delivery method pretty effective, so my nicotine tolerance is probably pretty high. I don't have any dip right now and normally that would mean an immediate trip to the store, but the e-cig is satisfying the cravings and doing the trick.
Pros of e-cig:
- Clean, no loose tobacco, no spitting, no butts
- Practically no smell
- Use it anywhere
- No funky aftertaste or smell on your hands
- Vapor is smooth
- Aside from startup cost, it should end up being cheaper than tobacco
- No cherry to knock off, no spit cup to spill
- No lighters, matches, etc...as long as it is charged and the cartridge has juice it's self contained
Cons:
- Long term health effects unknown, but likely not nearly as bad as tobacco
- Not all cartridges interchange, not every store will carry replacements
- Easy to use too often due to lack of traditional tobacco negatives
Cartridge life and battery life are the big unknowns for me at this point. Still on my first cartridge and charge and I've been using it for half a day. If cartridge life is decent, I will probably keep using this.
It is an effective replacement for the habit. Probably seems strange to people who have never had an addiction, but addiction is a strange animal. As trivial as the activity seems, it is so hard to kick, even knowing the health and financial consequences. I tried cold turkey multiple times and it always ended in failure. I am hoping the e-cig will satisfy cravings and be a less harmful alternative to tobacco.
I got the 1.8% nicotine cartridges, which are "strong." I wouldn't want to go lower than that (yet), but the nicotine content of dip is pretty high and delivery method pretty effective, so my nicotine tolerance is probably pretty high. I don't have any dip right now and normally that would mean an immediate trip to the store, but the e-cig is satisfying the cravings and doing the trick.
Pros of e-cig:
- Clean, no loose tobacco, no spitting, no butts
- Practically no smell
- Use it anywhere
- No funky aftertaste or smell on your hands
- Vapor is smooth
- Aside from startup cost, it should end up being cheaper than tobacco
- No cherry to knock off, no spit cup to spill
- No lighters, matches, etc...as long as it is charged and the cartridge has juice it's self contained
Cons:
- Long term health effects unknown, but likely not nearly as bad as tobacco
- Not all cartridges interchange, not every store will carry replacements
- Easy to use too often due to lack of traditional tobacco negatives
Cartridge life and battery life are the big unknowns for me at this point. Still on my first cartridge and charge and I've been using it for half a day. If cartridge life is decent, I will probably keep using this.
It is an effective replacement for the habit. Probably seems strange to people who have never had an addiction, but addiction is a strange animal. As trivial as the activity seems, it is so hard to kick, even knowing the health and financial consequences. I tried cold turkey multiple times and it always ended in failure. I am hoping the e-cig will satisfy cravings and be a less harmful alternative to tobacco.
Originally Posted By: BrownBox88
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
I just tell it like I see it-if you don't have a thick enough skin then you're free to ignore my posts.
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
I just tell it like I see it-if you don't have a thick enough skin then you're free to ignore my posts.
01 Ranger....great points. I should have mentioned what you did, depending on the type of ecig you have, a lot of them don't interchange. That was another reason I went with Ego C, you can interchange all those parts with most other Ego's or get an adapter. That was what I learned in my quest to find the holy grail. I had so many different parts from the Blu, the 510's, the Volcanoe's, etc. etc. that I was literally throwing my money away. Buckled down and did some research and lots of reading and that lead me to the Ego-C. With those disposable ones, like you mentioned, you don't know how much juice you got left and then you start smoking burnt wick, it's nasty. BUT, if you are wanting to just try it out, it's a great way to go. All my friends that switched over to the Ego-C's where cig. smokers, don't know how they would hold up against a former dipper but glad that it seems to be working out for you. Take my advice before you spend any more money, if your happy with the ecig, get the good stuff and don't waste anymore money. That store I get my supplies from is located right where you live and they have a in-store pick up policy. Also remember, there are literally 1000's of different "flavors" you can try until you find your holy grail. That 1.8% equals 18000 mg/l, yeah, that would be pretty strong.
Thanks for the heads up on that. I did not know they were a local company and offered local pickup.
I will look into the Ego-C after trying the Nicotek a little longer. Still on the first cartridge and only had to charge it once, so it seems to be lasting decently well.
I used to smoke analog cigarettes prior dipping as my regular thing. I started dipping when fire safe cigarettes were hitting the market - couldn't stand the taste. I think since I seem to have a general tobacco/nicotine addiction the e-cigs should help out.
I will look into the Ego-C after trying the Nicotek a little longer. Still on the first cartridge and only had to charge it once, so it seems to be lasting decently well.
I used to smoke analog cigarettes prior dipping as my regular thing. I started dipping when fire safe cigarettes were hitting the market - couldn't stand the taste. I think since I seem to have a general tobacco/nicotine addiction the e-cigs should help out.
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I was actually rolling my own prior to November using pipe tobacco, injector machine and buying menthol tubes. They tasted great and didn't have that FSC coating on the tubes themselves. My friends that still smoked noticed immeadiately the different taste in their cigs. after the switch and I told them what had happened and they didn't even know about it. They all told me it was horrible and I'm thinking, great, more chemicals added to the store boughts and glad I was rolling my own. In fact, I still got a pound of loose tobacco I'm trying to get rid of buy because it is a controlled substance, I can't advertise it. I'll just keep it at the house I guess.
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: BrownBox88
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
I just tell it like I see it-if you don't have a thick enough skin then you're free to ignore my posts.
That is true...you do tell things like you see it from what I've noticed in other posts and threads LOL.
Originally Posted By: BrownBox88
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
An electronic cigarette? Is that like a pacifier for those who don't have the willpower to just quit altogether?
Tobacco use leaves me shaking my head in wonderment-why anyone would put that filth in their mouth is simply beyond my comprehension. And now there are electronic pacifiers for smokers? Sheesh.
You are such a grump. You are so arrogant.
I just tell it like I see it-if you don't have a thick enough skin then you're free to ignore my posts.
That is true...you do tell things like you see it from what I've noticed in other posts and threads LOL.
I'm thinking about trying the Blue e-cig. How are those?
My work sells the NJOY Starter kits and disposables
Seems around here, We (Racetrac), Circle K, Sunoco, Kangaroo, Hess, Chinamart and others sell them
7.99 Disposable
19.99 Starter kit
17.99 Refills (5 Cartridges, 1 Cart is supposed to = 2 Packs)
Seems around here, We (Racetrac), Circle K, Sunoco, Kangaroo, Hess, Chinamart and others sell them
7.99 Disposable
19.99 Starter kit
17.99 Refills (5 Cartridges, 1 Cart is supposed to = 2 Packs)
Smoked the NJOY. The menthol flavor is too strong for my likings.
DON'T WASTE your money on the Blu's. Been there, done that. You will have battery issues, the rechargeable box won't hold a charge after a month or two, you constantly have to change out those dinky batteries and you'll be forever changing out the tips because they only hold about two to three drops of juice. They are really small and will only give you a couple of good tokes. I don't sell or have any kind of financial incentive with Joyetech, but you'll be much happier with what I talked about earlier. Just giving you the benefit of knowledge and experience. I had only wished someone would have told me what I'm telling you when I first started and I could have avoided all the frustrations and expense I racked up by experimenting. Now for getting the right flavor, that's only going to come from experimenting, you can't get advice on that because everybody has their own taste.
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