Dumping PP; can i reuse the filter for diff. oil?
Dumping PP; can i reuse the filter for diff. oil?
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I just put the oil+filter in a couple of weeks ago.
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Yes... oils are compatable - plus there's no sense in clogging the environment with another barely used filter. Unless your engine is messy, double use of filters where sensible OCIs occur, brings you closer to maximizing your monetary investment - since such a high percentage of media is non-clogged after the first OCI.
Dumping oil already purshased early and buying new oil to maybe get slightly better gas mileage is likely a financial loss, not a gain.
Gallons saved over X miles times cost per gallon compared to cost of new motor oil. Solve for gallons saved. Convert to MPG improvement. Is it reasonable? Doubt it.
Gallons saved over X miles times cost per gallon compared to cost of new motor oil. Solve for gallons saved. Convert to MPG improvement. Is it reasonable? Doubt it.
Yes, you'd be fine re-using your filter, especially only being a few weeks old. A lot of people switch their filter every other oil change as recommended in many car's manuals (I believe your Accord's recommends that you change it every other oil change anyways). Why are you dumping the PP anyways? Didn't you just put that in there not too long ago?
Why are you dumping PP now?
Last week you were happy with it other than no MPG gain.
Last week you were happy with it other than no MPG gain.
Why on earth would you be changing out brand new (One week old?) Pennzoil Platinum? If my memory serves me right, all 5W-20 motor oils are at least semi-synthetic and provides for the most part the same level of protection AND fuel economy. Any of these oils can be run for 5000 miles or more in your climate. I ran my last 5W-20 Pennzoil Platinum change to 10K miles and am heading for another 10K on this change. Changing out premium motor oil is wasteful to your wallet and costly to the environment. You will gain nothing. Am I missing something?
Wow! Your dumping 25-30 bucks worth of oil huh? I wouldn't do it. You'd be wasting your money. Man, I can't even find that stuff around my parts.
Update: I am down to 19 mpg. I'm getting run through the ringer but the problem may not be PP as much as the filter. Turns out, Honda was right..their stock A02 Honda filter actually does regulate oil pressure better. Looks like I am using more fuel on this filter. Wow. I cannot belive Hondas are so finicky despite the parts guys and the 'net stating the S2000 oil filter fits but apparently it doesn't work optimally with Accord. I guess this is why they have 2 different filters, one for the S2000 and another for all other Hondas. WOW. I never would have thought the filter was the problem until I consulted with various sources. I just came here and now all these posts plus the ones before stating that there was no loss of fuel economy with PP. It's the filter! Needless to say, I have to dump the oil to change the filter and so I am going with M1. Wow. Un-be-weave-able.
I've been running the S2000 filters on our Honda's and Acura's for a couple of years. it's NOT the filter!
06VtecV6 I hear you. When I first came to this site I was dumping oil within 1,000 miles to try the next and greatest thing. Thing is, you don't want to tell that to people here
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If $$$ is not a factor then dump it out and put your favorite oil in - it will make you feel better. (Changing my oil always makes me feel better)
If $$$ is a factor - run the oil to 3,000 miles and then change it.
I would not keep the old oil filter in there - especially if you plan on doing a UOA. An old oil filter (slightly used or whatever) will hold a lot of the old oil and throw off your UOA even more.
If $$$ is not a factor then dump it out and put your favorite oil in - it will make you feel better. (Changing my oil always makes me feel better)
If $$$ is a factor - run the oil to 3,000 miles and then change it.
I would not keep the old oil filter in there - especially if you plan on doing a UOA. An old oil filter (slightly used or whatever) will hold a lot of the old oil and throw off your UOA even more.
The S2000 filters are very good at regulating oil pressure and sometimes produce even more, which is why a lot of people are impressed with them. The HAMP filters which are similar, are also praised for the oil pressure regulation. Here's a hint: It's not your filter, I can almost guarantee that
Best of luck on whatever you decide to do, though. The OEM Honda Filtechs are great filters, run them with confidence.
Um... pardon me for asking:
How exactly does an oil filter "regulate oil pressure"?
I seriously doubt that either your oil or your filter have anything at all to do with your gas mileage... unless, perhaps, you're running 140wt gear oil in there. If either the oil or the filter ARE causing a gas mileage issue here... then you've got MUCH bigger problems than gas mileage.
How exactly does an oil filter "regulate oil pressure"?
I seriously doubt that either your oil or your filter have anything at all to do with your gas mileage... unless, perhaps, you're running 140wt gear oil in there. If either the oil or the filter ARE causing a gas mileage issue here... then you've got MUCH bigger problems than gas mileage.
Hey maybe the 2006 model is more picky about oil then the other year models. I dunno. Nothing changed besides the oil and filter so I do not know what to tell you guys other then I already bought a stock Honda filter and this time, I am going with M1 with the stock filter. Sorry but 19 mg sucks and my car only has 28,xxx miles and I changed the air filter at 16k so it's not the air filter. Since noone else is complaining that PP has lessened their gas mileage, my bet is the filter is the problem. But if it's the oil, the M1 will take care of that too. We should find out shortly because if I put it in and my mileage goes up, there you go!
The first gas tank, I got 310 mile and the second one I did not even get 270. I got like 267 or something. Screw that . I was getting 333 with MC. Imma try Mobil 1 and if that doesn't get things going, I am going back to MC and stay with MC..I'll just change it out at 5k.
I noticed my shifting is getting a bit rougher. I bought 3 quarts of ATF. You all think ATF can affect gas mileage? Something is causing me to use more fuel and it has to either be the oil is too thick and not being pumped efficiently or the filter is not regulating pressure or both. I hope you all are around when I post the follow-up implicating something.
The first gas tank, I got 310 mile and the second one I did not even get 270. I got like 267 or something. Screw that . I was getting 333 with MC. Imma try Mobil 1 and if that doesn't get things going, I am going back to MC and stay with MC..I'll just change it out at 5k.
I noticed my shifting is getting a bit rougher. I bought 3 quarts of ATF. You all think ATF can affect gas mileage? Something is causing me to use more fuel and it has to either be the oil is too thick and not being pumped efficiently or the filter is not regulating pressure or both. I hope you all are around when I post the follow-up implicating something.
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Leave the oil and filter alone and stop racing people, and your gas mileage will go back up.
and to reinforce: oil filters cannot regulate pressure.
Maybe you got a bad tank of gas? Filled up with higher ETOH than other stations you were using? (alcohol content can vary station to station, state to state, county to county, season to season...) Run the oil/filter for a couple more tanks of gas and see.
and to reinforce: oil filters cannot regulate pressure.
Maybe you got a bad tank of gas? Filled up with higher ETOH than other stations you were using? (alcohol content can vary station to station, state to state, county to county, season to season...) Run the oil/filter for a couple more tanks of gas and see.
I remember reading brochures on them before. HAMP filters are designed to keep a more constant Oil Pressure, and raises oil pressure by about 5 psi. The OEM Honda oil filters have those little brochures at the dealership also mentioning that they're designed to provide the optimum oil pressure for our vehicles. I'm not an expert so i'm not sure on the details as to how they do this.
...and miles per tank is not a good way to judge gas mileage. You must use how many gallons it takes to fill back up to full, each time - and even then it can vary with pump shutoff.
You can change your oil filter without changing the oil by the way.
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