Thanks to Widman and the others, i have been able to track down the Donaldson filters as i dont trust too many of our filters down here, well at least not scrutinized as much as the U.S filters. Now one place has Donaldsons and the other has Fleetguard at 50cents less. I dont care about the cost, but which is better ? I seen both claim over one another. I will go Donaldson but i was curious.