Just like the title states, does anyone run 5w30 in their new Honda?
Does anyone run 5w30 in new Honda?
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Basically all that require 0w20 oil
Not in either of mine, no.
It helps when you understand that grades are recommendations, not requirements despite the fear-inducing language that the automaker is required to place in their owner's manual in accordance with their CAFE award letter.
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0w20 in my 21 Pilot. 5w20 in the summer is tempting though.
Running 0W-20 in our new Odyssey since I bought a glut of it.
Whenever that's gone it'll get 0W-40.
Whenever that's gone it'll get 0W-40.
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Nope, you are totally wrong. Anything other than 0W-20 is forbidden because Honda only specifies 0W-20.
2019 Civic Warranty booklet (came with the car):
"The warranties in this booklet do not cover: • The failure of any part or accessory due to: - Abuse, misuse, accidental damage, or acts of nature. - Improper installation or maintenance. - A low fluid level or the use of a fluid other than specified by Honda."
Owners Manual:
"...oil of suitable viscosity for the ambient temperature as shown."
A snippet of said owners manual is provided below and verifies "as shown" is only 0W-20.
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We had a long thread on this subject a while back, and as your post shows above there is no statement that declares the oil grade is a condition of the new-car warranty. An oil that causes harm will violate the warranty, therefore using a grade that is lower than the one listed could indeed be an issue. But no higher grade is going to cause harm.
People are really misinformed on this and lots of misplaced fear surrounds the topic. One wonders if that's the ultimate intent of the wording that a CAFE award letter requires of the automaker. If so then they have succeeded.
People are really misinformed on this and lots of misplaced fear surrounds the topic. One wonders if that's the ultimate intent of the wording that a CAFE award letter requires of the automaker. If so then they have succeeded.
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My Honda noted 0w20 in the manual. But at the dealership they used 5w20 and you were given an option at a higher cost to go with 0w20 instead. If you didn't pay more you got the 5w20.
Nothing in that shows you must use 0W-20, at the temperature range shown other grades would also be suitable
Yep ... I'm still waiting to read an owner's manual were it says the warrantly will be void if a different viscosity is used than the recommended one.
Were does any ower's manual say it "must" be used ... meaning "required" and not "recommended"?
Just another way to fool people into not using a thicker oil. The use of the words: "... the use of a fluid other than specified by Honda." is pretty nebulous. If Honda didn't want someone using a viscosity besides 0W-20 they would say so right in the oil section of the OM ... not buried in some nebulous statement in a warranty booklet that nobody reads.
"oil of suitable viscosity" ... does not lock it down to just 0W-20, but 0W-20 is "suitable" per Honda. It does not say "oil of required viscosity".
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Since my Honda falls under that criteria I will play. No, I do not use 5w30 in mine. I have been using 0w20 since I purchased it 7 years ago. No issues.
it's all I run, for my 12 civic, and my 19 2.0 T accord, 11 ranger, 95 4runner. all get 5/30..
there is ZERO difference in mpg's from 0/20 to the 5/30, I test this on several occasions and never saw a difference. so from around the 25K miles mark they all get on grade oil.
there is ZERO difference in mpg's from 0/20 to the 5/30, I test this on several occasions and never saw a difference. so from around the 25K miles mark they all get on grade oil.
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It does not say others would also be suitable. "AS SHOWN". The only one "shown" is 0W-20. Period.
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