Originally Posted By: Bladecutter
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
I am afraid your analogy is flawed.
You can own/use a gun for many legal reasons. A radar detector however has one use - to help a driver not get caught speeding which is breaking the law.
Actually having a radar detector in your vehicle in and of itself is illegal in many states so it is a double whammy.
There is only one reason to have a radar detector in your vehicle and it isn't for something legal. So your analogy to gun ownership does not work.
The only one with flawed logic in these two posts, unfortunately, is you.
There is only 1 state with a law on the books that makes having a radar detector in operation in your vehicle an illegal act. Possessing it isn't illegal, however, otherwise that one state would have barriers at their state borders to pull over a large number of drivers passing through their state.
One state where the use of a radar detector is illegal does not make a lot of states, so, that negates your statement about radar detectors, in full.
Also, guns were make with one purpose:
To kill things.
Animals, humans, invading aliens.
It does nothing else at all.
You can use it for target shooting, but that is not what it was invented for.
Aside from killing living things, and putting holes in targets, exactly what other purpose does a gun serve? None.
Guns were also an advancement of technology.
Swords and spears came first.
Then someone started throwing swords and spears, so decided to invent a way to make them fly through the air at a much greater speed. That lead to the invention of bows and arrows.
Bows and arrows eventually lead to guns after the invention of gun powder.
What was the purpose of Bows and Arrows? Killing living things.
Oddly enough, they can also be used for putting holes in targets, and require much more skill to use properly.
Besides, I can drive around all day long with the cruise control locked in at the speed limit, and all it takes is one dishonest speed trap at the bottom of a slight hill, or a dishonest revenue generator to pull me over and hand me a ticket. Luckily, those types of people in that profession are few and far between.
The main thing I can take from this entire topic is the fact that I'm glad that people like you and cptbarkey can't take away my right to own and operate my perfectly legal, and very useful, anti-speeding ticket device.
BC.
There is nothing wrong with my logic.
1st of I said "some states" not all as I didn't have a list right in front of me to know an exact numbers of what was illegal where. Obviously when I said having it in your vehicle I was refering to actually using it. What other reason would there be to have it in the vehicle? Give me a break ok. I didn't mean "the man" was going to pull you over and confiscate your car just because you had a radar detector in it. Wow. I am talking about using it obviously. It is like here in NH. Fireworks are illegal to shoot off( without a permit )but you can still walk into a store and buy them. You aren't illegal until you light them up. Same applies to what I said( meant )on detectors.
Also, for the record, according to what I can find online...
Radar Detectors are illegal in...
- Virginia
- Washington DC
- Any commercial vehicle over 10,000 pounds in any state( federal law )
Laser Jammers are illegal in...
- California
- Colorado
- Illinois
- Minnesota
- Oklahoma
- South Carolina
- Tennessee
- Texas
- Utah
- Virginia
If you are going down the road with your CC locked in at the speed limit, as you say, how does a radar detector( or laser jammer )help you avoid that dishonest officer/speed trap in your scenario? Even if you go down that "slight hill" you won't increase speed enough to get a ticket if you were locked in at the speed limit as you claim. IF you get a ticket you would get it wiith or without the detector/jammer. Talk about some flawed logic.
Ah, MANY MANY guns are intended for target shooting. Built specifically for that purpose. Not for hunting or self defense but specifically for target shooting. Do a search for competitive shooting and you wiill see what I mean. Those guns are not suited to hunting or self defense.
The difference between guns and detectors/jammers in your argument here is the guns are for legal to use purposes whereas a detector/jammer is for ONE purpose and ONE purpose alone and that is to avoid a speeding ticket. If you need the detector/jammer for that then it means you were speeding in the 1st place which is an illegal act. The detecors/jammers may be legal to use in "most" states/areas but the reason you use it is to avoid a ticket for an illegal act. I can go hunting, or target shooting, or even defend myself with my guns and I am legal from ownership of the firearm to using it.
All I am saying.
The main thing I take away from this thread is that BITOG is full of people with lead feet, who think any kind of law designed for safety is some kind of monitary grab, and who are paranoid of "the man".
As I said in my initial response don't speed and you don't need to worry about a ticket and thus your detectors/jammers are not needed. Very simple. If you feel you must have one then clearly you speed and break the law. I don't agree wiith every law on the books myself but they are what they are and you follow them or change them.
This thread is too funny.
