Originally Posted by y_p_w
Originally Posted by J_mo
I use shell exclusively. Chevron if a shell Is unavailable.
This tread to me is very interesting. The same guys that go bonkers over cutting open filters, and sending oil in for lab analysis - do not care what fuel they use?
Seems a little ironic to me lol
Because anyone who understand fuel distribution understands that it's a fungible commodity. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, where there are 5 major oil refineries, and all make fuel to the same industry standards. That fuel is transported via pipeline and pretty much traded. It's more like bank/ATM transactions than anything else. Shell deposits fuel into the system, and their customers withdraw fuel from fuel depots. The pipeline operators are only required to "transport" X amount of fuel and to allow their customers' customers to withdraw that amount of comparable fuel at points A, B, and C.
If one is buying fuel in Southern California, there hasn't been a Shell refinery there in years. Shell does have a large distribution facility. It's effectively just a horse trading facility where they distribute fuel made by someone else.
The thing that brands fuel is that it will use detergent additives developed or specified by the marketer.
Under the logic in this thread, all oil companies use the same base stock, and only add their add pack, right?
Oil analysis shows, that add pack is what makes the difference. Right?
I just dont understand the logic that people do not believe the add packs in gasoline make a difference, but will believe they do in other fluids.
Also, shell has a refinery in Martinez btw.
I've owned a major brand fueling location for 10 years. I wont say which, but believe me. There is a difference in the fuel you buy from AMPM, and the fuel you purchase from Chevron.
Originally Posted by J_mo
I use shell exclusively. Chevron if a shell Is unavailable.
This tread to me is very interesting. The same guys that go bonkers over cutting open filters, and sending oil in for lab analysis - do not care what fuel they use?
Seems a little ironic to me lol
Because anyone who understand fuel distribution understands that it's a fungible commodity. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, where there are 5 major oil refineries, and all make fuel to the same industry standards. That fuel is transported via pipeline and pretty much traded. It's more like bank/ATM transactions than anything else. Shell deposits fuel into the system, and their customers withdraw fuel from fuel depots. The pipeline operators are only required to "transport" X amount of fuel and to allow their customers' customers to withdraw that amount of comparable fuel at points A, B, and C.
If one is buying fuel in Southern California, there hasn't been a Shell refinery there in years. Shell does have a large distribution facility. It's effectively just a horse trading facility where they distribute fuel made by someone else.
The thing that brands fuel is that it will use detergent additives developed or specified by the marketer.
Under the logic in this thread, all oil companies use the same base stock, and only add their add pack, right?
Oil analysis shows, that add pack is what makes the difference. Right?
I just dont understand the logic that people do not believe the add packs in gasoline make a difference, but will believe they do in other fluids.
Also, shell has a refinery in Martinez btw.
I've owned a major brand fueling location for 10 years. I wont say which, but believe me. There is a difference in the fuel you buy from AMPM, and the fuel you purchase from Chevron.