- Feb 13, 2003
Never had a problem with the "string" type plug in a nail hole...used em' for years.
quote:Have a link?
Originally posted by moribundman:quote:Exactly, I've never had one come out or leak. But don't get me wrong, I trust them only to a point, which is street-legal speeds. What really bugs me is that I always get a punctured tire right after buying new tires. If I see construction site near my house, I go the other way and around the site. I saw a slow motion video showing how a tire picks up nail or screw. It's pretty amazing to watch!
I was really skeptical of those twisted rubber cord "swizzle stick" plugs when I first used them but after patching many tires with them I've never had one fail.
quote:Yeah but then the day before a very important trip they will refuse to certify the tire for the activity for which it was specificaly designed, causing you and your fellow Michelin owners to boycott the event.
Originally posted by robbobster: If the hole is within reason, Michelin does not downgrade the speed rating of their high-performance tires if they have a proper plug/repair. I think that's really saying something.
Originally posted by Lumberg: Yeah but then the day before a very important trip they will refuse to certify the tire for the activity for which it was specificaly designed, causing you and your fellow Michelin owners to boycott the event.
quote:Where is it legal to drive when you cannot hear? It's a prerequisite to hear and have 20/40 vision in order to drive.
Originally posted by moribundman: A deaf driver would have kept going merrily, smoking, catching fire, burning...
quote:Kind of defeats the purpose of a do it yourself kit. I brought up the subject of carbide cutters, which as you indicate "ream" out the hole to get a proper plug to fit. Much literature on tire repair says that this step must be done because sharp damaged steel tread fragments can damage a plug. http://www.chemco.ca/Products/Tire_Repair/Goodyear/gdy_carbide_cut.htm
Originally posted by ebaker: Ususlly to install a plug you have to ream the hole out larger to get the plug to fit. This does additional damage to the belts, particularly on a steel belt tire. I'd take it to the tire store for a patch, especially since you have the warranty.
quote:Certainly there have been people who have used the DIY repair kits without any apparent problems. However - it's your choice as to whether or not to risk the safety of yourself and your family in order to save $25.
Carbide cutters are required to prepare injuries for radial tires and follow Goodyear tire repair procedures. When used as directed, injuries can be repaired to meet industry and Goodyear requirements. These carbide cutters remove damaged steel cable from the injury, allowing the insertion of a plug into the injury. Failure to properly prepare the injury with a carbide cutter will leave sharp steel cables in the injury that will damage (tear) the plug as it is inserted. Always use a low speed drill for cutting out the injured area.
quote:Just had a tire plugged Thurs. I wanted the inside patch done. I questioned using a plug over the inside patch and was told the plugs today are fine. No thumping or other problems after some time like the old style plugs. Went with the new plug. Don't know how good or bad it will be as the tire is now the full size spare.
Originally posted by kenw: fyi, modern plugs are much better than the old ones, they have a "cap" that seals the inside much like a patch. It is still inserted from the outside, the head (or patch part) is rolled to fit thru the hole and expands once inside.
quote:On a Skid Steer tires a leak is generally the worst thing that CAN happen to a repair. It may seem counter intuitive, but skid steer tires are not very demanding when it comes to internal stresses. Sure, skid steer tires are subjected to horrible road hazard conditions, but any tire subjected to high speeds will have far greater internal stresses. This is due to the standing waves that form immediately after the footprint. (watch the tires the next time you watch drag racing.) It's these internal stresses that cause problems with repairs made to street tires. Not to mention that hardly anybody inspects the tire about to be repaired for evidence of excessive underinflation. Let's face it - we know underinflated tires can fail. And a repaired tire was operated underinflated, the only questions are how much and for how long. Hope this helps.
Originally posted by Bret Chase: .....the worst that has ever happened was a slow leak developing very near the end of the tire's service life.....A skidsteer is about the most demanding applicaton for a tire I can think of.....