I just don't get using a big diesel pickup for a commuter rig?? I see lots of them around here, big diesel duallys and the only occupant is the driver. The ONLY time our big one ton pickups leave the farm is when we have to tow or haul hay etc. We never use them to just drive around or haul groceries...too wasteful on fuel.
Diesel pickup trucks- dangerous, malicious drivers
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It's not the waste of fuel, or the environmental impact - it's the blowing smoke in another person's face that is objectionable....
One common factor in road rage, poor driving and yes, rolling coal, is the lack of normal human social cues when both people are behind the wheel. Body language, voice inflection, facial expression...all are lacking in this encounter on the road.
I think the best approach is to ignore them...unless you have the time to follow them to their destination...at which point, you have to decide if you want a confrontation...and that choice would depend on a variety of factors, but at the very least, most State Police agencies have a hotline for reporting aggressive driving, and every cell phone has a camera for getting make, model, color and license plate.
I once followed an unbelievably aggressive road-rage driver (I watched him drive like NASCAR during morning traffic on local streets) to his destination. I had the time. But his destination was a US Navy base....and on that base, in front of his command, a whole different set of social cues came into being, and a junior sailor being addressed by a senior officer is a much different interaction than a young jerk in a pick-up truck, tailgating, cutting off, and narrowly missing, a group of anonymous drivers, including one behind the wheel of an older 4 Runner...
One common factor in road rage, poor driving and yes, rolling coal, is the lack of normal human social cues when both people are behind the wheel. Body language, voice inflection, facial expression...all are lacking in this encounter on the road.
I think the best approach is to ignore them...unless you have the time to follow them to their destination...at which point, you have to decide if you want a confrontation...and that choice would depend on a variety of factors, but at the very least, most State Police agencies have a hotline for reporting aggressive driving, and every cell phone has a camera for getting make, model, color and license plate.
I once followed an unbelievably aggressive road-rage driver (I watched him drive like NASCAR during morning traffic on local streets) to his destination. I had the time. But his destination was a US Navy base....and on that base, in front of his command, a whole different set of social cues came into being, and a junior sailor being addressed by a senior officer is a much different interaction than a young jerk in a pick-up truck, tailgating, cutting off, and narrowly missing, a group of anonymous drivers, including one behind the wheel of an older 4 Runner...
I have a 99 Dodge Ram and never heard of "rolling coal". I do get better MPG than in my Jeep. They cannot test it for pollution in NY, as long as the CEL is off you are OK. My truck is a bit loud, but I have a stock exhaust I believe.
Mainly I have it so I can pull a heavy trailer.
The people that add all these mods to their diesel engines do not get the long engine life I expect.
Mainly I have it so I can pull a heavy trailer.
The people that add all these mods to their diesel engines do not get the long engine life I expect.
My friend is unfortunately one of these coal rollers. He owns a 2003 lifted Duramax that is straight piped with a tuner. I refuse to drive with him or do anything that involves his truck. I actually rarely see him now because he has turned into such an arrogant [censored]. He is the typical leech in society now. He is on unemployment and lives with mommy and daddy. They paid for his truck. He goes around smoking people out and thinking it is funny. The worst part is he used to be a really nice guy. He told me that the black smoke isn't bad for the environment and he isn't sure why people get so butt hurt over rolling coal.
He told me its not bad because the soot in the exhaust just settles to the ground, and its usually the people who know nothing about diesels who think it is bad.
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
My friend is unfortunately one of these coal rollers. He owns a 2003 lifted Duramax that is straight piped with a tuner. I refuse to drive with him or do anything that involves his truck. I actually rarely see him now because he has turned into such an arrogant [censored]. He is the typical leech in society now. He is on unemployment and lives with mommy and daddy. They paid for his truck. He goes around smoking people out and thinking it is funny. The worst part is he used to be a really nice guy. He told me that the black smoke isn't bad for the environment and he isn't sure why people get so butt hurt over rolling coal.
He told me its not bad because the soot in the exhaust just settles to the ground, and its usually the people who know nothing about diesels who think it is bad.
His parents are the enablers.
My friend is unfortunately one of these coal rollers. He owns a 2003 lifted Duramax that is straight piped with a tuner. I refuse to drive with him or do anything that involves his truck. I actually rarely see him now because he has turned into such an arrogant [censored]. He is the typical leech in society now. He is on unemployment and lives with mommy and daddy. They paid for his truck. He goes around smoking people out and thinking it is funny. The worst part is he used to be a really nice guy. He told me that the black smoke isn't bad for the environment and he isn't sure why people get so butt hurt over rolling coal.
His parents are the enablers.
diesel soot is carcinogenic:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0272059087900443
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1651040/pdf/amjph00644-0075.pdf
http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/5/741.short
http://www.empa.ch/plugin/template/empa/.../new_abt=/uacc=
And the list goes on and on...
Quest
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0272059087900443
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1651040/pdf/amjph00644-0075.pdf
http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/5/741.short
http://www.empa.ch/plugin/template/empa/.../new_abt=/uacc=
And the list goes on and on...
Quest
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
His parents are the enablers.
Exactly. I think if more of these guys had to actually work for their vehicles they might not drive like such D-bags.
He was complaining the other day that he had to wait for his check to come in so he could fix his steering on his truck. He was mad because he couldn't go to the bar.
If my vehicle is down, I have to find a ride to work, classes, and save money to buy the needed part.
His parents are the enablers.
Exactly. I think if more of these guys had to actually work for their vehicles they might not drive like such D-bags.
He was complaining the other day that he had to wait for his check to come in so he could fix his steering on his truck. He was mad because he couldn't go to the bar.
If my vehicle is down, I have to find a ride to work, classes, and save money to buy the needed part.
Originally Posted By: Quest
diesel soot is carcinogenic:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0272059087900443
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1651040/pdf/amjph00644-0075.pdf
http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/5/741.short
http://www.empa.ch/plugin/template/empa/.../new_abt=/uacc=
And the list goes on and on...
Quest
Yup, and its always those who modify their diesels to blow smoke who say "it's not bad for the environment" and "other people don't understand". It should be perfectly legal to smack ignorant fools upside the head.
diesel soot is carcinogenic:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0272059087900443
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1651040/pdf/amjph00644-0075.pdf
http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/5/741.short
http://www.empa.ch/plugin/template/empa/.../new_abt=/uacc=
And the list goes on and on...
Quest
Yup, and its always those who modify their diesels to blow smoke who say "it's not bad for the environment" and "other people don't understand". It should be perfectly legal to smack ignorant fools upside the head.
Have you suggested to him that if the smoke is not bad, why he doesn't route the exhaust into the cab rather than letting it get away?
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
My friend is unfortunately one of these coal rollers. He owns a 2003 lifted Duramax that is straight piped with a tuner. I refuse to drive with him or do anything that involves his truck. I actually rarely see him now because he has turned into such an arrogant [censored]. He is the typical leech in society now. He is on unemployment and lives with mommy and daddy. They paid for his truck. He goes around smoking people out and thinking it is funny. The worst part is he used to be a really nice guy. He told me that the black smoke isn't bad for the environment and he isn't sure why people get so butt hurt over rolling coal.
He told me its not bad because the soot in the exhaust just settles to the ground, and its usually the people who know nothing about diesels who think it is bad.
Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
My friend is unfortunately one of these coal rollers. He owns a 2003 lifted Duramax that is straight piped with a tuner. I refuse to drive with him or do anything that involves his truck. I actually rarely see him now because he has turned into such an arrogant [censored]. He is the typical leech in society now. He is on unemployment and lives with mommy and daddy. They paid for his truck. He goes around smoking people out and thinking it is funny. The worst part is he used to be a really nice guy. He told me that the black smoke isn't bad for the environment and he isn't sure why people get so butt hurt over rolling coal.
Lesson learn kids . NEVER ever park next to diesel truck or any kind of truck where your window is on their tail pipe !! You either way ahead of them or way back of them . ROLL YOUR WINDOW UP NEXT TIME . Around here I saw a few doing it . Sure they [censored] up kid but nothing we can do about it .
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We have a member here who has bragged about exactly this, many will remember him by name. I won't.
It's a silly and sometimes dangerous game, no matter what we do there are going to be idiots regardless.
It's a silly and sometimes dangerous game, no matter what we do there are going to be idiots regardless.
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I always found it funny that they don't understand a diesel really shouldn't "roll coal". Although, sometimes it may be a bit beneficial as overfueling can cool down EGTs.
Overfueling only reduces EGT in gas engines. In a diesel it raises the temp.
I always found it funny that they don't understand a diesel really shouldn't "roll coal". Although, sometimes it may be a bit beneficial as overfueling can cool down EGTs.
Overfueling only reduces EGT in gas engines. In a diesel it raises the temp.
It's done constantly here in Colorado.
BC.
BC.
Morons that give diesel's a bad reputation in this country.
Its the look at me crowed, very immature.
If they bothered to learn about actually tuning a diesel they would realize that more smoke doesn't mean more power, just more wasted fuel.
Its the look at me crowed, very immature.
If they bothered to learn about actually tuning a diesel they would realize that more smoke doesn't mean more power, just more wasted fuel.
Originally Posted By: edhackett
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Brodozers, but a brodozer can be gas as well.
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Brodozers, but a brodozer can be gas as well.
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Next time some trash does that to you,cut in front of them and throw a glass bottle through their windshield.
I prefer to just lean out the sunroof and dump a mag into them...but sadly this isn't Russia.
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I find pointing a laughing effective...for me because I treat them as they need to be treated and them because they get the recognition they really deserve.
They are clowns and deserve to be treated as such.
They are clowns and deserve to be treated as such.
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