Diesel additives for <0* F temps

[dlundblad]

Can you guys recommend a good diesel anti gel additive for a Kubota L4330. Would I have any problems with the additives not lubing the engine properly etc?

I plowed out the neighbors lane yesterday and he topped me off so I'm not too sure if I have the winter blend or not. It was well below 17* F so I assume it was, but sleeping well at night is a good thing.. Especially with the colder temps we are expecting next week

 

[Boomer]

Try Power Service White Bottle. Available at Wal Marts and many other places like truck stops.

 

[madibob]

Originally Posted By: Boomer
Try Power Service White Bottle. Available at Wal Marts and many other places like truck stops.


^^^This. Had it in my tank driving Sunday night at -5*F and no issues. I did mix it slightly stronger than the instructions to be safe.

 

[Ramblejam]

http://www.powerservice.com/dfs/

 

[R80RS]

I use Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement +Cetane Boost (white bottle) in winter for antigel and lubricity and Diesel Kleen +Cetane Boost (silver bottle) in summer. I've had good results with both. PS also has products for biodiesel if you use that. You can find PS products everywhere.

http://www.powerservice.com/

I've heard Amsoil also makes a good winter diesel additive but I've never tried it.

 

[Donald]

Go with the Power Service white container for the winter anti-gel. In the summer I use 2 cycle TCW oil as a added lubricant.

I know they mention a "winter blend" but is there any standard of what percentage of fuel vs kerosene? Or whatever the station thinks is best?

 

[Keith_Stone]

Stanadyne is one of the best but not readily available as Power Service.

http://www.stanadyne.com/view.php?id=45

I use the performance formula year round. I believe it's got some OEM's blessings.

I get it online http://www.fueladditiveonline.com/Template/

 

[R80RS]

Originally Posted By: Keith_Stone
Stanadyne is one of the best but not readily available as Power Service.

http://www.stanadyne.com/view.php?id=45

I use the performance formula year round. I believe it's got some OEM's blessings.

I get it online http://www.fueladditiveonline.com/Template/


Stanadyne does make good additive. I did not know they make a winter formula. I was only familiar with the Lubricity Formula, which scored very well in this study:

http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fuel_additive_test.pdf.

 

[ColdCanuk]

Really good stuff, 2 diesel owners I know swear by it:

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/fu...?code=DFCCNC-EA

 

[Donald]

Originally Posted By: R80RS
Originally Posted By: Keith_Stone
Stanadyne is one of the best but not readily available as Power Service.

http://www.stanadyne.com/view.php?id=45

I use the performance formula year round. I believe it's got some OEM's blessings.

I get it online http://www.fueladditiveonline.com/Template/


Stanadyne does make good additive. I did not know they make a winter formula. I was only familiar with the Lubricity Formula, which scored very well in this study:

http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fuel_additive_test.pdf.


Note how well MMO did in this study.

 

[Ken2]

#2 Diesel fuel contains wax. That is OK at warmer temperatures. The wax adds lubricity and provides BTUs when burned. In cold temperatures the wax agglomerates and clogs filters. The cold weather additive keeps the wax in small bits so it passes through the system. The additive must be put into the fuel while it is still above the cloud point. If the wax has already dropped out, the additive will do no good. Mixing in some #1-D (kerosene) might help here. #1-D has lower lubricity, costs more, and provides fewer BTUs for lower MPG, so it is not a full solution except in the coldest climates.

Are there any winter fuel additives that do not work according to their label? If you use a multi-purpose winter fuel additive, be sure to follow label directions. You can only get so much of any one additive in an ounce, so more ounces will be needed per tank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_diesel_fuel

 

[mkosem]

I always used PS white in winter in my diesel vehicle. I had one gelling situation before I started using it, and none ever again afterwards.

--Matt

 

[doitmyself]

I hesitate to post this because I haven't confirmed it, but here goes. IF I remember correct, Power Service is one additive that Terry Dyson warned that "overuse" could lead to bearing damage. CAN ANY OF THE OLD TIMERS FIND HIS TESTS THAT CLAIM THIS????

Here is a post I made a few years ago....cut and paste. Take it for what it is:

"Biodiesel is an excellent cleaner by itself and it provides good lubricity. Check your manual, as some mfg. don't recommend going over B5 (5%). At my workplace, the switch to biodiesel actually caused problems with clogged fuel filters from the excellent cleaning of old systems.

Oil guru Terry Dyson used to blame "many aftermarket diesel additives" with increased bearing wear as mentioned in this old thread: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=302158

"Many of the popularly accepted diesel fuel adds HARM the bearings in your engines or do nothing to DROP NOx or reduce SOOT. I see it in oil analysis all the time." Terry mentioned Power Service in his rants. If you dig deep enough, maybe you can find them. To me, it seemed that the overuse (too high dose) was especially bad.

Another debated topic is that some additives treat(emulsify) the water so that it passes through the pump,injectors, engine. Others treat the water so that it "falls out" in the filter (not passing through the engine). Stanadyne is like the second example, and they claim this is a safer system.

I am not an expert on this topic, but the above ideas piqued my curiousity enough to stick with the Stanadyne product as a feel good move."

 

[dlundblad]

My neighbor recommended kerosene. Roughly 1 gallon per 10 gallons of diesel. Food for thought as well.

 

[Camman]

I used a product called CleanBoost Sno-Cat this winter and had great luck.
The product worked at -23 below in Wyoming and I never gelled up this year.
In the summer I use their CleanBoost Maxx version and seem to have no issues with injectors or fuel filters......I did notice the DEF is not going as fast, possible a cleaner burn.

 

[TiredTrucker]

A lot of truckers use PS or Howes. Both readily available most places and are both good products. Amway actually sells a pretty good diesel fuel additive/anti-gel. The son of a good friend wanted me to run it in my semi for a winter. I liked it but was not cost effective for the amount I use. I am very partial to and use the Schaeffer Oil brand of diesel additives. One that doesn't get mentioned a lot, but is pretty good is FPPF brand of anti-gel.