Did the band l/act Kiss have hit? Article states they did

As a child, I remember listening to Kiss Alive! on vinyl, it was captivating, it felt like you were there. I've seem them in person, more than once, with and without makeup.

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I need to listen to that KISS Alive album (if I can get thru it). I have never listened to anything by them except what would play on the radio and most times I would turn it off. One of my brothers been a musician his whole life. Drummer, singer, songwriter and guitarist (bass/lead/rhythm) who was huge fan of KISS. He purchased a limited edition KISS guitar in the late 70s for about $700. Around ten years ago he actually made a deal with one of the newly opening Hard Rock Casinos to sell it and he told me he made about $4000 on the sale. H.R.Casino was going to put it on display like many others they accumulate.
 
They were pretty big. Far below Aerosmith, Zeppelin and Queen (and nowhere near The Stones or Floyd), I'd put them somewhere around Black Sabbath and Alice Cooper. Sabbath and Cooper put on 'shock shows' like KISS but IMO KISS put out crap music. Sabbath and Cooper were actually very talented - as bands.

I was never a KISS fan. Or a Stones fan - so take that with a grain of salt.

Eagles, Zeppelin, Queen, AC/DC, Aerosmith - all much better bands but I bet KISS sold darn near as much merchandise as those 5 put together, and there was a LOT of merchandise floating around from those 5. Sabbath might have come close, maybe Pink Floyd. Sabbath or Floyd and any one of those other 5 would have sold more merch I would guess. Even 3rd graders in 1978-1988 were BEGGING for KISS shirts. That was the success of their act.

But yeah, KISS was legit a huge band with a lot of albums and tickets sold for about 3-4 years. They died about as quickly as they rose though. The other bands either had longevity or spawned Ozzy.

tl;dr - to answer the question of act or band, the answer is "both".
Never much of a KISS or a Cooper fan , but I do in fact recall his first band was extremely talented rock musicians who eventually got pushed aside by Cooper's strange stage shows. I think he ended up going thru many musicians thru the years. Kind of reminding me of Black Oak Arkansas who originally had three super talented lead guitarist who also got overshadowed by the singer Jim Dandy.
 
Lesson learned, I thought Kiss was a highly successful act, not a actual band.

Similar to the Village People, a successful act, but not really a group/band. Or the Harlem Globetrotters, an entertaining basketball act, but not a actual basketball team.
 
One might say that according to Gene Simmons, that Kiss is more of a business than an actual band. To him it’s all about the money.
YEP. Many many stories of musical bands with long storied careers of which one or two members are filthy rich and some others are dirt poor due to either back stabbing by members/friends? or poor management and advice. Like The BAND of whom Robbie Robertson claimed to have written 99% of their songs and somehow took 99% of the royalties while the others members let it slide until they realized they were getting next to nothing. I think Gene Simmons has actually said that stuff in the press about it is more for the $$$ than anything else.
 
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They have sold millions and millions of albums, so I would say that counts.

Hard Rock Bands seldom top the charts. AC/DC has never had a number one hit, but I think there second all time in album sales to the Beatles. I think GNR only hit the top of the charts once, yet sold out every huge stadium in the world for like 3 years straight.

Not really a huge fan, but I would still say they were very succesful.

Surely this is some sort of "gotcha" post?
it is not a gotcha post. I just can't recall a single hit song of Kiss. I am aware they were a huge financial success, but never knew they were receiving any significant royalties annually for their songs.

Also surprised to learn in this thread AC/DC was not so successful. I can name a handful of their songs, and enjoy hearing their songs occasionally today.
 
Yep, they were a real band that relied heavily on a theatrical show. When I was in junior high, virtually everything that could bear a logo had KISS all over it.

For the cool kids anyway. I was not one of the cool kids. 😟 Still in therapy over that and my intense jealousy of @Zee09 .

The KISS ARMY. This probably brings back memories. :)



It was a refreshing alternative, after being subjected to the years of the Donny & Marie show...
 
Gene Simmons is a marketing genius. As a band I'd rate them just below The Monkey's in musical ability. So, pretty much the bottom of the scale. My opinion, shared by many of my acquaintances.
 
Just could not enjoy or listen to KISS or stuff like Alice Cooper or Queen. Not much a Stones fan either.
Wife and I saw nearly every 60s/70s rock bands play LIVE from Grand Funk Railroad, Dave Mason, Eric Clapton, Roger McGuinn , Grateful Dead to Alvin Lee , Humble Pie , Pink Floyd , Hot Tuna , BTO, YES , BOC , Emerson , Lake and Palmer , Bad Company , Robin Trower, Foghat etc... All of the great southern rock bands from Allmans Bros , Outlaws , Elvin Bishop , Skynyrd , Atlanta Rhythm Section , Blackfoot , the original Molly Hatchet to Joe Walsh , Eagles. Too many more to list.

My dad raised all us kids on the real old time country music and that is really what has stayed with me that I enjoy the most as I got older. Buck Owens , The Highway Men J. Cash , Waylon , Nelson , Kristofferson , Haggard , Marty Robbins etc... Later we liked and saw acts like Travis Tritt , Brooks & Dunn , George Strait , Blackhawk , Alan Jackson.... I can not keep up with all the new young country (children) these days. New , young country songs all sound the same to me. Same exact subject matter too. LoL. The pick up trucks, skinny dippin, bare feet , beer bottles and the girlfriend out with his best friend .....
 
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I didn't really know much about them when I was a kid, but a friend in elementary school absolutely loved them. I do remember they had their own TV movie on one of the big networks, but only saw bits and pieces of it when channel surfing.

They have maybe one Billboard Top 10 single and a couple of RIAA Gold Records. I looked at their chart success, and they were bigger with album sales than with singles, although that might have been because of relative lack of radio airplay at the time was huge in terms of the chart position. Album chart position was only based on sales.

But yeah - they were more a spectacle that had to be witnessed rather than listened to. They tried to make their money with concerts. This explains it to some degree, where their live album actually saved them with huge sales.

In the meantime, Kiss’s live show was in full bloom. Spitting fire and blood, smoking guitars, costumes and make-up, it was all there. As a consequence, the costs to stage a show were high. During a stop in the first tour, the band recorded album Hotter Than Hell, which was released on October 22nd, 1974. Once again, sales were disappointing. Money was growing tighter and tighter. The tour was cut short, ensuring a new album could be recorded as quickly as possible, that was produced by Casablancaowner Neil Bogart. The third album, Dressed To Kill, was released on March 19th, 1975, and, although it sold better than both preceding albums, sales were relatively slow.​
Contrary to the record sales, Kiss was an extremely successful live act. The show had grown even more outrageous, including drums going up in the air, fireworks, firebombs going off, smashing guitars, etc. A huge adrenaline rush radiating from the stage making audiences go wild.​
But, the money had run out. Kiss had no money, Casablanca had no money as well and was on the brink of bankruptcy. It was so bad that Casablanca wasn’t capable of paying the band their royalties, the Dressed To Kill tour was paid for by Bill Aucoin and the band sued Casablanca for breach of their contract. For all parties concerned, there was only one more chance available to turn things around for the better. Neil Bogart had an idea: why not release a live-album? Bill Aucoin was interested, recording the band’s energy, avoid high studio costs and no pressure on the band to come up with yet another batch of songs. But, as logical as it may sound nowadays, it was an enormous gamble. At the time live-albums weren’t very common and usually didn’t sell that well. A double live-album was deemed a career suicide. But, when you have nothing left to lose, gambling is all part of the game. It wouldn’t turn out well, very well, but astronomically well for the band, Neil Bogart, Casablanca Records and the concept of live-albums.​
 
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Gene Simmons is a marketing genius. As a band I'd rate them just below The Monkey's in musical ability. So, pretty much the bottom of the scale. My opinion, shared by many of my acquaintances.
Peter Criss is a talented drummer and Ace Frehley was a very credible melodic lead guitarist, which was rare in a time of basic blues riffs. The other two wrote pretty catchy songs, provided a bit of a backline on top of most of the vocals and were better businessmen.

The Monkees were an entirely produced pop act. Not quite in the same city, let alone ballpark.
 
Times were quite different back in time but going to a KISS concert was life changing. Even Jimmy Buffett mentions them in his song "Mañana".

The year was 1976, the country was celebrating the 200th anniversary and Kiss was the craziest thing to hit the air waves. They were enjoying a fabulously successful world tour they dubbed "The Spirit of '76" to celebrate the release of their 4th album "Destroyer" and I was about to turn 13 years old.

What did I want for my 13th birthday? A ticket to a kiss concert. They were touring and they were going to be in Charleston, West Virginia that summer and I was all over it. I begged, bummed, mowed grass and carried groceries until I had convinced my mom I was worthy.

I must say that at 13 I was much too young to appreciate what I had experienced. I saw Kiss... absolutely AMAZING!! But, their opening act was none other than Bob Seger. Holy smokes...

That was a long time ago and I tend to listen more to Jimmy Buffett today than I do Kiss but it was a life experience that I will never forget.

Thanks mom!
 
On their ‘dressed to kill’ album they repeat “I want to rock and roll all night and party everyday” 11 times! I’ve hated that song for 50 years! Years ago Oprah asked Gene Simmons how long his tongue was, his reply….long enough to make you one of my closest friends!
 
The third single from the band's Billion Dollar Babies album was also its third highest-charting effort, reaching number 25 on the Billboard Hot 100 behind only "School's Out" (number seven) and "I'm Eighteen" (number 21). It also helped power the album to the top of the Billboard 200 chart for the first and only time in Cooper's career.

In my wild and crazy days, I actually saw KISS in concert. I sometimes make jokes about my failing memory, but I just don't remember ever seeing Alice Cooper on stage while watching the band KISS. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
BTW, I recently gave my daughter (who has become a vinyl freak) a vintage Alice Cooper "Schools Out" album. This was the album that unfolded to look like a vandalized school desk. Funny how "School's Out" is being played a lot on the airwaves this time of year.....;)
 
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