Dental implants - feedback needed

[PWMDMD]

Implants are far more invasive after drilling in to the boon as using toxic chemical adhesives which of course all the people selling implants will claim is perfectly safe when they have no way of proving this

There is no "adhesive" for an implant. A "pilot hole" so to speak is made in the bone and the implant is simply screwed in. As long as it has "primary stability" and it isn't mobile, the titanium "osteointegrates" with the bone - it actually fuses to the bone.

It is not difficult to prove implants are safe. The first dental implant was placed in 1965 but it's a free country and no one is forcing anyone to replace a tooth. If you don't like them, don't get one.

 

[SNWMBL]

Do let your dentist do this.

 

[Jokester]

I'm young but surprised hearing how many have implants on here...outside of trauma cases is this due to improper care over many years? Genuine question. My parents nor grandparents have needed dental work so is part of this genetic?

Can also be caused quite quickly due to sudden illness, treatment, etc. Had my 1st root canal done back in '88 and a 2nd done in '05. Had NO issues with either up until 2018 when I was hit out of nowhere with a debilitating illness. That along with the aggressive treatment needed to eradicate it as quickly as possible suddenly left me with dental issues. Both of those root canals failed internally and both teeth had to be removed, no way to save either. Also started having cavities out of the blue, gum recession and chronic dry mouth. Asked 2 different dentists and an oral surgeon if it could be due to what happened suddenly with my system in regards to the illness I had. Of course I got the usual 'well, as we get older...' speech. Same with suddenly having chronic dry eye practically overnight due to this illness/treatment. Optometrist gave me the 'well, as we age our tear ducts blah, blah, blah' speech too.

So... even with flossing/brushing twice daily, using Prevident daily for yrs now, swishing with Biotene/Act every night, consuming around 1 gal of water daily, no consumption of garbage soda, etc. and things are just now starting to stabilize in regards to dental health. Regardless of oral care and genetics things can still take a serious toll that nothing can be done to prevent.

 

[alarmguy]

My endodontist issued a verdict that one of my molars is at end of life and needs to be extracted. The suggestion is to get an implant.

I am wary of foreign titanium items in my body, especially if it's going to be protruding into a bacteria pool.

Any feedback?

I have a number of dental implants. Lost count, but I think 4. Best thing since the invention of sliced bread I say.
Can't tell the difference between regular teeth. No bridges needed or any of the stuff.
Implant is simply like a super strong dry wall screw screwed into your jawbone. A BONE GRAFT DONE PRIOR TO THE IMPLANT assures you will start out with fresh new bone growing around the screw. Solid as rock (or fence post sunk in cement) Odds are small that it will ever fail but anything even natural teeth fail.
No more cavities, no more concerns. Fantastic solution for those who can afford it.

Ps/. I did have one fail, the titanium post actually broke, it was a bear getting it replaced but almost done now. Just need the abutment done in a a month or two. Go for it.

 

[1lieutenant]

I was going to respond to this, but the American Academy of Periodontology just released a statement regarding maintaining natural teeth v placing implants. I have been a practicing periodontist since 1980. Trained and certified on multiple implant systems. A large part of my practice is determining the prognosis of teeth and doing comprehensive treatment planning. Sometimes this does involve extraction and implant placement. Just because a tooth may require extensive treatment to save does not mean the prognosis is poor. Trying to do an in depth discussion in a oil forum is not productive.

So, on to the statement…

Statement from the American Academy of Periodontology (AAP) on the Importance of Preserving Natural Teeth​

CHICAGO – November 4, 2024 – The American Academy of Periodontology (AAP) is concerned by recent reports suggesting that some dental practitioners are unnecessarily extracting teeth and replacing them with dental implants. As specialists trained in preventing and treating periodontal disease—a leading cause of tooth loss—periodontists are committed to preserving natural teeth whenever possible. These practices, highlighted in a CBS News report, and the suggestion that such decisions may be financially motivated, present a serious concern for patient care.

“Establishing and maintaining oral health, including preserving natural teeth should be a priority in treatment planning,” said AAP President Dr. Mia Geisinger. “Patients should be informed of the full range of treatment options and their risks and benefits before considering extraction. Open and honest discussions with a dental professional are crucial to ensure patients are comfortable with their treatment plan.”

The AAP advises patients at risk of tooth loss to seek guidance from a dental professional skilled in preserving natural teeth, such as a periodontist. If a dental implant is necessary, it should be performed by a practitioner with expertise in risk assessment, treatment planning, and surgical procedures. The treatment plan should include long-term implant maintenance to maximize success.

“It’s important to understand that while dental implants do not get tooth decay, they are susceptible to gum and bone loss,” Dr. Geisinger emphasized. “Implants require diligent home care and regular dental visits. They can be an effective alternative to replace teeth that cannot be saved, but treating and maintaining a natural tooth is preferable whenever possible.”

The AAP is dedicated to supporting its members in promoting optimal patient health and quality of life. Dental practitioners who replace savable teeth with implants unnecessarily undermine this mission.

Dr. Geisinger concluded, “Periodontists are dental specialists with advanced training focused on both extending the life of teeth as well as surgical dental implant placement. They are committed to helping patients maintain healthy, natural teeth. When a dental implant is the best option, periodontists pursue it with the patient’s long-term stability and success in mind.”

For more information about the AAP, visit perio.org.

 

[Averroes]

Wife’s a dentist. Has done plenty implants. Get the work done and keep your hygiene game strong. Floss, brush, mouth wash. Waterpik was stated earlier and it works well.

 

[Vil_Riker]

I've been referred to a dental surgeon for the extraction in 2025.

 

[Bill Judson]

Titanium is one of the most biocompatible materials in existence. Your fears are unfounded.

Yeah, they say that about a lot of stuff... then later they learn it wasn't so safe after all.

Like they claimed putting food and water in plastic food grade containers was safe... until the found that small particles of plastic are lodged in people's bodies and even in people's brains!

They are now seeing that this is causing health issues in a lot of people.

Root canals fail because the root canal system becomes infected again

And with that knowledge... dentists that do root canals should be held liable for recommending something that will harm the patient later on.

Really the only issue with implants is if it fails to integrate into the bone and that's rare, and it usually just means removing the implant, letting the hole heal, and trying again. Once it is integrated into the bone, you're usually good to go

Yes of course... "If" and "usually" doesn't bring a lot of confidence.

Makes it sound like those in the medical profession know that what they are doing is gambling since they like to use words such as "If" and "usually" while they recommend certain procedures.

 

[Bill Judson]

He was a great guy but had an oral surgeon do the implants.

Aren't the Oral Surgeons the guys that just talk about it?

 

[PWMDMD]

Yeah, they say that about a lot of stuff... then later they learn it wasn't so safe after all.

Like they claimed putting food and water in plastic food grade containers was safe... until the found that small particles of plastic are lodged in people's bodies and even in people's brains!

They are now seeing that this is causing health issues in a lot of people.




And with that knowledge... dentists that do root canals should be held liable for recommending something that will harm the patient later on. View attachment 252688





Yes of course... "If" and "usually" doesn't bring a lot of confidence.

Makes it sound like those in the medical profession know that what they are doing is gambling since they like to use words such as "If" and "usually" while they recommend certain procedures. View attachment 252689

Then don't get implants and don't get root canals. I can assure you, no one cares what you do or don't do with your teeth.

 

[kschachn]

Then don't get implants and don't get root canals. I can assure you, no one cares what you do or don't do with your teeth.

Exactly. Perhaps those without a shred of scientific understanding should avoid such things.

 

[sleepery]

I have had root canals and crowns . One was done and lasted 20 years .
Eventually the other root got infected (same tooth) and I had the tooth extracted . I was informed of this possibly happening about 10 years ago during a checkup and it eventually happened . I was glad to have had it last as long as it did . I had a bridge placed in the rear of the upper part of my mouth . I keep it very clean and am happy I had it taken care of .