DENSO alternator -- remanufactured in Japan!
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Originally Posted By: Smoky14
Japanese still have pride in workmanship and the concept of "loosing face" would not allow them to put out an inferior product.
My education in Japan was an eye opening experience.
Smoky
I have to say that even though I try to buy American products whenever I can, what you say about Japanese products is what I have experienced too. Their QC is second to none.
Japanese still have pride in workmanship and the concept of "loosing face" would not allow them to put out an inferior product.
My education in Japan was an eye opening experience.
Smoky
I have to say that even though I try to buy American products whenever I can, what you say about Japanese products is what I have experienced too. Their QC is second to none.
Denso? Yep had several of their wonderful starters in my mini van. The famous 'clicking' would appear every few years. The repair kits are still available on ebay.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
It was a very pleasant surprise when I went to pick up the DEMSO OEM alternator for my car from the local parts dealer Completes Plus that the label on it said it was made in Japan. Completes Plus got it directly from DENSO North America in nearby Long Beach the next day and they sold it to me for only $95 + core. On the other hand, the last alternator I bought from Toyota was remanufactured in USA and it wasn't nearly as good condition. Not to mention that when I called the local dealer, he quoted $200, with the list price being $166.19. I didn't bother to negotiate.
The manufacture quality of the alternator is excellent and top-notch, and I am wondering if it's almost brand-new except for the housing that was entirely reconditioned. I couldn't ask for a better deal for an OEM alternator. As I said, the Toyota remanufactured-in-USA DENSO I got 15 years ago wasn't in as good condition and I could see a lot of dirt on the stator coil windings.
Similarly, the DENSO spark plugs made in Japan have higher quality than the DENSO spark plugs made in USA, the latter being branded by Toyota and sold by the dealer.
Do they sell to the public? Their site looks like it is for business accounts only.
Thanks for the info.
Rusty
It was a very pleasant surprise when I went to pick up the DEMSO OEM alternator for my car from the local parts dealer Completes Plus that the label on it said it was made in Japan. Completes Plus got it directly from DENSO North America in nearby Long Beach the next day and they sold it to me for only $95 + core. On the other hand, the last alternator I bought from Toyota was remanufactured in USA and it wasn't nearly as good condition. Not to mention that when I called the local dealer, he quoted $200, with the list price being $166.19. I didn't bother to negotiate.
The manufacture quality of the alternator is excellent and top-notch, and I am wondering if it's almost brand-new except for the housing that was entirely reconditioned. I couldn't ask for a better deal for an OEM alternator. As I said, the Toyota remanufactured-in-USA DENSO I got 15 years ago wasn't in as good condition and I could see a lot of dirt on the stator coil windings.
Similarly, the DENSO spark plugs made in Japan have higher quality than the DENSO spark plugs made in USA, the latter being branded by Toyota and sold by the dealer.
Do they sell to the public? Their site looks like it is for business accounts only.
Thanks for the info.
Rusty
Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: bvance554
Why should I care how shiny my spark plug is? Does this shiny appearance mean it performs better?
Apparently so. Who knew! :facepalm
Plating on the spark plug is very important. That's what keeps the plug from being seized on the cylinder head.
Originally Posted By: bvance554
Why should I care how shiny my spark plug is? Does this shiny appearance mean it performs better?
Apparently so. Who knew! :facepalm
Plating on the spark plug is very important. That's what keeps the plug from being seized on the cylinder head.
Originally Posted By: rusty1161
Gokhan said:
Originally Posted By: Gito
How can I get a hold of one of these?
I work in LA near Long Beach
If you live in or near LA, Completes Plus is the best place to get DENSO products. You pay the wholesale price and don't pay shipping if you pick it up will-call. If they don't have a particular DENSO part in stock, they will make a quick call to DENSO North America in Long Beach and get it the next day. They have four locations in the LA area:
http://www.completesplus.com/CompletesStatic/locations.html
How can I get a hold of one of these?
I work in LA near Long Beach
If you live in or near LA, Completes Plus is the best place to get DENSO products. You pay the wholesale price and don't pay shipping if you pick it up will-call. If they don't have a particular DENSO part in stock, they will make a quick call to DENSO North America in Long Beach and get it the next day. They have four locations in the LA area:
http://www.completesplus.com/CompletesStatic/locations.html
Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
Originally Posted By: bvance554
Why should I care how shiny my spark plug is? Does this shiny appearance mean it performs better?
....hold an Autolite/Champion plug against a NGK or Denso JDM plug, you'll see the difference.
Used plenty of Autolites without a problem. My Dak had Autolites...they had close to 100K and while worn, they were actually in pretty good shape.
Originally Posted By: bvance554
Why should I care how shiny my spark plug is? Does this shiny appearance mean it performs better?
....hold an Autolite/Champion plug against a NGK or Denso JDM plug, you'll see the difference.
Used plenty of Autolites without a problem. My Dak had Autolites...they had close to 100K and while worn, they were actually in pretty good shape.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: Gito
How can I get a hold of one of these?
I work in LA near Long Beach
If you live in or near LA, Completes Plus is the best place to get DENSO products. You pay the wholesale price and don't pay shipping if you pick it up will-call. If they don't have a particular DENSO part in stock, they will make a quick call to DENSO North America in Long Beach and get it the next day. They have four locations in the LA area:
http://www.completesplus.com/CompletesStatic/locations.html
Thanks.
If I need Denso parts for my Honda S2000 I now know where to get it, I live about 20-25 miles from Long Beach and my daughter live there so she can pickup parts for me.
Originally Posted By: Gito
How can I get a hold of one of these?
I work in LA near Long Beach
If you live in or near LA, Completes Plus is the best place to get DENSO products. You pay the wholesale price and don't pay shipping if you pick it up will-call. If they don't have a particular DENSO part in stock, they will make a quick call to DENSO North America in Long Beach and get it the next day. They have four locations in the LA area:
http://www.completesplus.com/CompletesStatic/locations.html
Thanks.
If I need Denso parts for my Honda S2000 I now know where to get it, I live about 20-25 miles from Long Beach and my daughter live there so she can pickup parts for me.
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
Originally Posted By: Smoky14
Japanese still have pride in workmanship and the concept of "loosing face" would not allow them to put out an inferior product.
My education in Japan was an eye opening experience.
Smoky
I have to say that even though I try to buy American products whenever I can, what you say about Japanese products is what I have experienced too. Their QC is second to none.
In the 50's and 60's Japanese products were mostly cheap disposable, but starting in the early 70's their products were much improve.
Originally Posted By: Smoky14
Japanese still have pride in workmanship and the concept of "loosing face" would not allow them to put out an inferior product.
My education in Japan was an eye opening experience.
Smoky
I have to say that even though I try to buy American products whenever I can, what you say about Japanese products is what I have experienced too. Their QC is second to none.
In the 50's and 60's Japanese products were mostly cheap disposable, but starting in the early 70's their products were much improve.
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: Gito
How can I get a hold of one of these?
I work in LA near Long Beach
If you live in or near LA, Completes Plus is the best place to get DENSO products. You pay the wholesale price and don't pay shipping if you pick it up will-call. If they don't have a particular DENSO part in stock, they will make a quick call to DENSO North America in Long Beach and get it the next day. They have four locations in the LA area:
http://www.completesplus.com/CompletesStatic/locations.html
Thanks.
If I need Denso parts for my Honda S2000 I now know where to get it, I live about 20-25 miles from Long Beach and my daughter live there so she can pickup parts for me.
For you, the nearest Completes Plus location would be in Torrance.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: Gito
How can I get a hold of one of these?
I work in LA near Long Beach
If you live in or near LA, Completes Plus is the best place to get DENSO products. You pay the wholesale price and don't pay shipping if you pick it up will-call. If they don't have a particular DENSO part in stock, they will make a quick call to DENSO North America in Long Beach and get it the next day. They have four locations in the LA area:
http://www.completesplus.com/CompletesStatic/locations.html
Thanks.
If I need Denso parts for my Honda S2000 I now know where to get it, I live about 20-25 miles from Long Beach and my daughter live there so she can pickup parts for me.
For you, the nearest Completes Plus location would be in Torrance.
Originally Posted By: ms21043
Please explain what it is you saw with the spark plugs that make you feel the made in Japan are better?
Placebo!
Please explain what it is you saw with the spark plugs that make you feel the made in Japan are better?
Placebo!
It's true that Denso First Time Fit products are darn good and are as good as the OEM offering they sell to car makers.
I have seen plenty of stories from people that look at two
identical vehicle models, where one is made in Japan, and the other is made in the US or another country and most everyone
finds that at least visually the Japanese produced product has better fit and finish and attention to detail.
I have seen plenty of stories from people that look at two
identical vehicle models, where one is made in Japan, and the other is made in the US or another country and most everyone
finds that at least visually the Japanese produced product has better fit and finish and attention to detail.
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Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: rusty1161
Originally Posted By: rusty1161
Gokhan said:
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: bvance554
Why should I care how shiny my spark plug is? Does this shiny appearance mean it performs better?
Apparently so. Who knew! :facepalm
Plating on the spark plug is very important. That's what keeps the plug from being seized on the cylinder head.
Thats what anti-seize lubricant is for. But you still can't judge the quality of the plating by how shiny something is.
Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: bvance554
Why should I care how shiny my spark plug is? Does this shiny appearance mean it performs better?
Apparently so. Who knew! :facepalm
Plating on the spark plug is very important. That's what keeps the plug from being seized on the cylinder head.
Thats what anti-seize lubricant is for. But you still can't judge the quality of the plating by how shiny something is.
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Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
It's true that Denso First Time Fit products are darn good and are as good as the OEM offering they sell to car makers.
I have seen plenty of stories from people that look at two
identical vehicle models, where one is made in Japan, and the other is made in the US or another country and most everyone
finds that at least visually the Japanese produced product has better fit and finish and attention to detail.
Actually First Time Fit is often a better quality product compared to what Denso offers under manufacturers names. Air filters, oil filters...
It's true that Denso First Time Fit products are darn good and are as good as the OEM offering they sell to car makers.
I have seen plenty of stories from people that look at two
identical vehicle models, where one is made in Japan, and the other is made in the US or another country and most everyone
finds that at least visually the Japanese produced product has better fit and finish and attention to detail.
Actually First Time Fit is often a better quality product compared to what Denso offers under manufacturers names. Air filters, oil filters...
Originally Posted By: bvance554
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: bvance554
Why should I care how shiny my spark plug is? Does this shiny appearance mean it performs better?
Apparently so. Who knew! :facepalm
Plating on the spark plug is very important. That's what keeps the plug from being seized on the cylinder head.
Thats what anti-seize lubricant is for. But you still can't judge the quality of the plating by how shiny something is.
Antiseize lubricant is strongly not recommended by DENSO as well as NGK, as it results in overtorqueing. Plating is supposed to break off during removal, which prevents seizing.
Japanese-made bolts usually have excellent plating. I know this because bolts for my car come from Japan. Of course, being shiny is one of the quality indicators of surface finish. It means nothing went wrong during plating and it's as smooth as possible. Besides, the made-in-USA plugs had other quality issues (electrode centering and plating) as well.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: bvance554
Why should I care how shiny my spark plug is? Does this shiny appearance mean it performs better?
Apparently so. Who knew! :facepalm
Plating on the spark plug is very important. That's what keeps the plug from being seized on the cylinder head.
Thats what anti-seize lubricant is for. But you still can't judge the quality of the plating by how shiny something is.
Antiseize lubricant is strongly not recommended by DENSO as well as NGK, as it results in overtorqueing. Plating is supposed to break off during removal, which prevents seizing.
Japanese-made bolts usually have excellent plating. I know this because bolts for my car come from Japan. Of course, being shiny is one of the quality indicators of surface finish. It means nothing went wrong during plating and it's as smooth as possible. Besides, the made-in-USA plugs had other quality issues (electrode centering and plating) as well.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Japanese-made bolts usually have excellent plating. I know this because bolts for my car come from Japan. Of course, being shiny is one of the quality indicators of surface finish. It means nothing went wrong during plating and it's as smooth as possible. Besides, the made-in-USA plugs had other quality issues (electrode centering and plating) as well.
I strongly disagree! Once you get out of sunny So Cal and into... pretty much everywhere north and east of it, Japanese bolts can SUCK to get out! Especially Nissan under body bolts. I don't know who their supplier is, but they fail at corrosion protection. HANDS DOWN, I have run into more stuck, rusted, corroded and seized bolts on Hondas, Toyotas and Nissans than on domestic brands. And I work on WAY more domestics than imports.
Japanese-made bolts usually have excellent plating. I know this because bolts for my car come from Japan. Of course, being shiny is one of the quality indicators of surface finish. It means nothing went wrong during plating and it's as smooth as possible. Besides, the made-in-USA plugs had other quality issues (electrode centering and plating) as well.
I strongly disagree! Once you get out of sunny So Cal and into... pretty much everywhere north and east of it, Japanese bolts can SUCK to get out! Especially Nissan under body bolts. I don't know who their supplier is, but they fail at corrosion protection. HANDS DOWN, I have run into more stuck, rusted, corroded and seized bolts on Hondas, Toyotas and Nissans than on domestic brands. And I work on WAY more domestics than imports.
Just checked my reman'd-Denso alt....made in USA...good lookin' tho!
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