Delo 400XLE 10w-30 in 2014 Mazda3 2.0 Skyactiv-G

[Apme123]

I have some Delo 400xle 10w30. I was wondering if it ok to run it in my 2014 Mazda3 2.0 Skyactiv-G for a 5k oci. Here is a link to all of the approved oil viscosities for that engine. I am in the US but I don't really care for the 0w20 CAFE standards oil that gets you an extra .5 mpg.

https://euroesi.mazda.co.jp/esicont/eu_eng/mazda3/20110724140058/html/id0111h3800400.html

I am kind of surprised that a 10w50 is approved also.

 

[06VtecV6]

Use 10w-30 without thinking twice just stay away from the xx-40s. I plan on running 10-30 exclusively for 9 out of 12 months as soon as this mild (think: non existent) texas "desert winter" "melts away" in a few short weeks. HEck, I think it is going to be 70s tomorrow and day after then back down in typical texas desert rollercoaster "style and fashion"

 

[lubricatosaurus]

That Delo is SM, which is a standard run on gasoline engines, and the viscosity weight will work fine. The Mazda list just goes to prove the 0w-20 is really a minimum viscosity grade to use. Engines do fine with more viscosity, to a point of course. They have to lubricate well while the engine is warming up after all!

 

[shDK]

In Europe where i live. Mazda spec 0-30 for skyactive engines. 30 Weight oils should not be a problem.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: 06VtecV6
Use 10w-30 without thinking twice just stay away from the xx-40s.

You do realize that the 10w-30 he posted has very similar HTHS to something like Mobil 1 0w-40, yet you say the 10w-30 can be used without thinking twice, yet you recommend avoiding the 40 grades?

If the original poster is wishing to follow warranty requirements to the letter, he should follow the OEM recommendations. 0w-20 is a fine choice. On the other hand, if one wishes to go outside of OEM recommendations at one's own risk, using a CJ-4 10w-30 "without thinking twice" while avoiding a 40 grade seems a little odd to me. If he chooses to use the Delo, I don't see how it can be more acceptable than something like M1 0w-40, unless the manual perplexingly permits non-ILSAC 30 grades yet prohibits A3/B3 A3/B4 lubricants.

 

[Apme123]

Under the link, it looks like SJ/SM 10w30 is approved for use. I'll go ahead and use away for 5k miles.

 

[Garak]

Under what link? What does Mazda say? I think it's a fine oil, but go into this with eyes open. Is 10w-30 an allowable grade for your vehicle, according to the manual? And, does it call for SM or newer, or is it calling for SM/GF-4 or newer? There is a distinction, and I can't think of many vehicles made in the last several years, at least running gasoline, that call for a 10w-30 and that don't call for an ILSAC rated oil.

I'm running out of spec, but I did so near the end of warranty, and was well aware that my decision is my own problem.

 

[lubricatosaurus]

Garak,
the link is for a Mazda service manual page, and I think it's targeted at Europe and parts of Asia.
https://euroesi.mazda.co.jp/esicont/eu_eng/mazda3/20110724140058/html/id0111h3800400.html
If you look at the "euroesi" part on the front, sounds like "not-NorthAmerica" although the same engines are used there, right? EPA CAFE 0w-20 in the U.S. I suppose. The usual thicker for the rest of the planet except N.A.

Notice that for an engine which takes 0w-20 in the U.S., they say put about any viscosity spread your little heart desires in it (just not 10w-60 please).

 

[lubricatosaurus]

Correction, Mazda U.S. says you can use a 0w-30 (or 0w-20) in the SkyActiv-G 2.0 on this continent, so a Delo 10w-30 would meet the hot viscosity requirements anywhere on any continent or planet.

 

[6starprez]

Look at all the obsolete API and ILSAC ratings in that chart. Skyactiv-G isn't that old.

 

[buster]

I have a 2015 3 with the 2.0. I may use a 10w30 in the warmer months. I've been using a 5w30 (M1 EP) and now 5w20 EP for the winter. I like the lower volatility of the 10w30's and less VII's (lower deposits).

*Although I do believe a good 0w20 would be perfectly fine to get 150k+ miles out of it regardless.

 

[lubricatosaurus]

Originally Posted By: 6starprez
Look at all the obsolete API and ILSAC ratings in that chart. Skyactiv-G isn't that old.
I know, funny they mention SG. 3rd world countries is the market though, where old formula oils are just fine. Mazda says use anything, basically. At least they don't say use SE !

 

[wemay]

Use what you like according to the manual. Although the "minimum viscosity to use", 0W-20 is also the recommended grade by MazdaUSA.


Originally Posted By: lubricatosaurus
"...0w-20 is really a minimum viscosity grade to use..."

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: lubricatosaurus
Garak,
the link is for a Mazda service manual page, and I think it's targeted at Europe and parts of Asia.

I'm not disputing what it call for elsewhere in the world, or what it actually can run on, and run well. I'm merely talking about North American warranty requirements. In fact, it'll run just find on 15w-40, which isn't even in this manual blurb.

I see, however, that CAFE inexplicably must hold some sway in the non-US jurisdictions of Hong Kong and Macau. To hear it told here, 0w-20 is a US only grade, but we do know it's used in Japan, Canada, and now Hong Kong and Macau.

I'm running something out of spec. But, if I had a problem under warranty, I wouldn't be scrambling for protection from a Japanese manual.