DEI SmartStart vs long-range remote for RS

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I am currently in the process of installing a remote starter on my 2011 Prius and have a bit of a dilemma. The simplified remote starter that I am installing (RSR setup using a DB-ALL and a plug-and-play t-harness) will allow me to remote start the vehicle by clicking the "lock" button three times.

However, by only utilizing the OEM remote, I am limited to the range of the factory remote. This makes it a bit inconvenient if I am parked faraway from the office.

Fortunately, Directed (DEI) has two options for extending the range of the remote starter: 1) a bulky remote which advertises a 1-mi range, 2) DEI Smartstart, which is a subscription based service that allows you to start the car from your mobile phone. I am having some difficulty deciding which option is better, and would like the board's suggestions and/or personal experiences.

Without getting into discussions about the security aspects of the smartstart, these are the pros/cons that I have thought of for each option.

1) Viper 9752vl (comprised of Viper 7752v remote, XL202 transmitter, 6711t antenna).

Pros: No long-term subscription fee, faster response time for lock/unlock (no 5-10 sec delay for signal to travel thru cell towers).
Cons: Antenna must be mounted in dot-matrix area of windshield (potential target), bulky remote, range may be inadequate if I am parked in a distant parking lot.

2) Directed Smartstart

Pros: No range limitation (able to start car from anywhere with cell service), no antenna mounted, no need to carry additional remote.
Cons: $60/yr service plan, slower response time of lock/unlock from phone (signal has to travel to cell towers).

The upfront cost is the same - for either the Smartstart module or the long-range remote.

Thoughts?
 
Option #3, live with the limited range
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
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Well, you prefaced your pros/cons list with a statement that says, "Without getting into discussions about the security aspects of the smartstart..."

To me, the security aspects of that system are enough to strike that off the list. Not to mention that you have to pay 60 bucks/year for that service. I personally can't imagine paying to be able to start my car from a phone. I prefer Option 3 above, but for the sake of discussion, I'd have to go with your Option 1.

Maybe to spark some more discussion, what is the motive here? Is it to pre-cool a hot car? Pre-heat a cold car? Do you really need to be able to start your car from a mile away? Perhaps expressing what your desires are here, you may get some additional options you haven't considered before.
 
There's a video on Youtube where a guy installs a 2.4gz antenna to different electronic devices and it greatly increases the range a lot.The antenna's only around 5.00. I'll post it later,I'm at work right now,almost everything is blocked here.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Thoughts?


Well, you prefaced your pros/cons list with a statement that says, "Without getting into discussions about the security aspects of the smartstart..."

To me, the security aspects of that system are enough to strike that off the list. Not to mention that you have to pay 60 bucks/year for that service. I personally can't imagine paying to be able to start my car from a phone. I prefer Option 3 above, but for the sake of discussion, I'd have to go with your Option 1.

Maybe to spark some more discussion, what is the motive here? Is it to pre-cool a hot car? Pre-heat a cold car? Do you really need to be able to start your car from a mile away? Perhaps expressing what your desires are here, you may get some additional options you haven't considered before.

Option #3 will remain an option. You get the choice of controlling the unit with the OEM remote and either Smartstart or a long-range remote. The RSR set-up only allows for two devices, whereas a conventional remote start/alarm has more outputs available.

The remote start is really an academic exercise for myself so that I can learn more about electrical wiring. Having the ability to cool-down a hot car in the summer (or warm-up a cold car in the winter) would be nice, but I do not expect it to be heavily used.
 
Originally Posted By: The Critic
The remote start is really an academic exercise for myself so that I can learn more about electrical wiring. Having the ability to cool-down a hot car in the summer (or warm-up a cold car in the winter) would be nice, but I do not expect it to be heavily used.


That being the case, I would absolutely rule #2 out. I would not get into a subscription service for $60/year over what is amounting to a learning project for you. I do commend you for wanting to learn a new skill, but I wouldn't sign up for a $60/year subscription to do it.
 
Only $5 per month? That is like only $1.25 per week!!

Unless you are of the type who buys stuff and pays them via weekly payment plan, it is stupid to pay subscription fee if you can avoid it. If you keep you Prius for 5 years, you are paying $300 in subscription fee.
 
Critic,

Pardon my ignorance, but how does a remote start work on a hybrid like the Prius? If you start it remotely, does the engine stay running? For how long?
 
Originally Posted By: chrome
Critic,

Pardon my ignorance, but how does a remote start work on a hybrid like the Prius? If you start it remotely, does the engine stay running? For how long?


The car is on if it is in "READY" mode. The remote starter will turn the Prius on so that it will be in "READY" mode. In "READY" mode, the internal-combustion engine may or may not be on; usually the engine cycles on/off depending on the hybrid battery's state-of-charge.
 
Just installed the system tonight, and it took me about 2 hr. More info in this thread here:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2990898

Overall, the RSR set-ups which allow the bypass module to act as a remote starter, greatly simplifies the installation process.

After some thought, I went with the long-range remote option. I will install it this weekend and report back with the results.
 
Update - the long-range remote does not live up to its promised 1 mile range. From my experience, it's range is closer to 400 ft in urban areas, and I think it is due to the interference from the electronics and the number of buildings.

The remote is currently listed for sale on eBay. I plan to get the smartstart module. I would much rather pay $6/mo for something that actually works.
 
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