You need to force yourself to get out of bed and complete some kind of task. Even if it's just making breakfast. Once you get over that hump the rest of the day is easier.
Dealing with depression
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Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Yeah, 3 hours from me isnt bad as i enjoy driving
I don't have the knowledge myself , but Nana gets Skypes from the grandsons.
Yeah, 3 hours from me isnt bad as i enjoy driving
I don't have the knowledge myself , but Nana gets Skypes from the grandsons.
Originally Posted by Rock_Hudstone
Originally Posted by csandste
Originally Posted by csandste
Rock_Hudstone said:
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Also, you'll get a mental health diagnosis on your medical record that can come back to haunt you in all sorts of negative ways in the future.
B.S....
Also, you'll get a mental health diagnosis on your medical record that can come back to haunt you in all sorts of negative ways in the future.
B.S....
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I have also heard of grow lights helping with seasonal affective disorder in the winter.
Originally Posted by Al
Originally Posted by Rock_Hudstone
Also, you'll get a mental health diagnosis on your medical record that can come back to haunt you in all sorts of negative ways in the future.
B.S....
You wouldn't happen to work for the pharmaceutical industry would you?
I see on another post you were pushing the flu vaccine, praising statin drugs and ridiculing someone because he didn't want to get himself or his family vaccinated.
Originally Posted by Rock_Hudstone
Also, you'll get a mental health diagnosis on your medical record that can come back to haunt you in all sorts of negative ways in the future.
B.S....
You wouldn't happen to work for the pharmaceutical industry would you?
I see on another post you were pushing the flu vaccine, praising statin drugs and ridiculing someone because he didn't want to get himself or his family vaccinated.
Originally Posted by Rock_Hudstone
Originally Posted by Al
Originally Posted by Rock_Hudstone
Also, you'll get a mental health diagnosis on your medical record that can come back to haunt you in all sorts of negative ways in the future.
B.S....
You wouldn't happen to work for the pharmaceutical industry would you?
I see on another post you were pushing the flu vaccine, praising statin drugs and ridiculing someone because he didn't want to get himself or his family vaccinated.
Umm no. I do a lot of genealogy stuff and can't help but notice that people died during colder months of flue and pneumonia. And older people (if they didn't die of these things) died of "hardening of the arteries". Three out of 4 of my grand parents died of this and dad also,
I may be dumb but not stupid I do pneumonia/flu shots and a statin. The earth has too many people so ignoring them is globally a good plan.
Originally Posted by Al
Originally Posted by Rock_Hudstone
Also, you'll get a mental health diagnosis on your medical record that can come back to haunt you in all sorts of negative ways in the future.
B.S....
You wouldn't happen to work for the pharmaceutical industry would you?
I see on another post you were pushing the flu vaccine, praising statin drugs and ridiculing someone because he didn't want to get himself or his family vaccinated.
Umm no. I do a lot of genealogy stuff and can't help but notice that people died during colder months of flue and pneumonia. And older people (if they didn't die of these things) died of "hardening of the arteries". Three out of 4 of my grand parents died of this and dad also,
I may be dumb but not stupid I do pneumonia/flu shots and a statin. The earth has too many people so ignoring them is globally a good plan.
StevieC, please accept my sincere apologies for referencing you in my last post. I meant 53' Stude.
Originally Posted by oilpsi2high
You need to force yourself to get out of bed and complete some kind of task. Even if it's just making breakfast. Once you get over that hump the rest of the day is easier.
That is usually the first hurdle of the day. Lately I've been finding it a little bit easier to get up earlier and having the extra time in the morning reduces stress and improves my mood hopefully for the entire day. It's not everything when it comes to depression but it's a start.
Part of getting up easier for me is that I moved into my girlfriend's house and in the morning her dog counts on me to get up and feed him then let him out. I do that while making the coffee and it's a good routine.
I've also seen having kids help some friends with depression. For me I'm scared to have them because of my depression but I know it can help for some people. It gives you more responsibility than the already too complicated life, but somehow it still seems to help some.
You need to force yourself to get out of bed and complete some kind of task. Even if it's just making breakfast. Once you get over that hump the rest of the day is easier.
That is usually the first hurdle of the day. Lately I've been finding it a little bit easier to get up earlier and having the extra time in the morning reduces stress and improves my mood hopefully for the entire day. It's not everything when it comes to depression but it's a start.
Part of getting up easier for me is that I moved into my girlfriend's house and in the morning her dog counts on me to get up and feed him then let him out. I do that while making the coffee and it's a good routine.
I've also seen having kids help some friends with depression. For me I'm scared to have them because of my depression but I know it can help for some people. It gives you more responsibility than the already too complicated life, but somehow it still seems to help some.
Exercise, if you aren't already. And, by that, I mean vigorous exercise - not just walking a few blocks. Running or aggressive bicycle riding. You need vigorous exercise to stimulate your cardiovascular system and get your natural endorphins (the body's natural painkillers and mood-enhancing substances) flowing.
Forget treating it with drugs. And stop drinking, or, limit yourself to no more than a couple of drinks per day.
Schedule a trip to the mountains and do some camping and hiking. See some sights. Take a trip somewhere you've always wanted to go. Things like this change your perspective on life.
Do some things to help others who are less fortunate than yourself.
Pray.
Forget treating it with drugs. And stop drinking, or, limit yourself to no more than a couple of drinks per day.
Schedule a trip to the mountains and do some camping and hiking. See some sights. Take a trip somewhere you've always wanted to go. Things like this change your perspective on life.
Do some things to help others who are less fortunate than yourself.
Pray.
Fish oil helps.
Google info on it.
Google info on it.
Originally Posted by john_pifer
Exercise, if you aren't already. And, by that, I mean vigorous exercise - not just walking a few blocks. Running or aggressive bicycle riding. You need vigorous exercise to stimulate your cardiovascular system and get your natural endorphins (the body's natural painkillers and mood-enhancing substances) flowing.
Forget treating it with drugs. And stop drinking, or, limit yourself to no more than a couple of drinks per day.
Schedule a trip to the mountains and do some camping and hiking. See some sights. Take a trip somewhere you've always wanted to go. Things like this change your perspective on life.
Do some things to help others who are less fortunate than yourself.
Pray.
Personally, I work for land surveyor so I spend most of the day excercising. I can't run because I'm carrying expensive equipment and sometimes heavy loads, several items at once by myself trying not to drop anything. I am usually moving fairly fast though because the pressure is always on to get all the jobs done. I often feel I have to skip my half an hour lunch break to get the work done.
I also ride my mountain bike in the summer months. Winter time it's harder to stay upbeat. Winter makes being outside not so enjoyable for me. If you're just going for a nice stroll it's one thing but winter makes everything harder to do. Your fingers turn numb when you're trying put a nail in concrete, etc. Just trying to put it in perspective because sometimes people have a hard time imagining something they haven't had to deal with (especially depression for example).
Definitely excercise helps a lot but it's one of the hardest things to want to do if you're dealing with depression and already spent all day working your rear off to make a living, whether you're working physically all day like am, or just have a mentally straining job stuck in the office all day.
Exercise, if you aren't already. And, by that, I mean vigorous exercise - not just walking a few blocks. Running or aggressive bicycle riding. You need vigorous exercise to stimulate your cardiovascular system and get your natural endorphins (the body's natural painkillers and mood-enhancing substances) flowing.
Forget treating it with drugs. And stop drinking, or, limit yourself to no more than a couple of drinks per day.
Schedule a trip to the mountains and do some camping and hiking. See some sights. Take a trip somewhere you've always wanted to go. Things like this change your perspective on life.
Do some things to help others who are less fortunate than yourself.
Pray.
Personally, I work for land surveyor so I spend most of the day excercising. I can't run because I'm carrying expensive equipment and sometimes heavy loads, several items at once by myself trying not to drop anything. I am usually moving fairly fast though because the pressure is always on to get all the jobs done. I often feel I have to skip my half an hour lunch break to get the work done.
I also ride my mountain bike in the summer months. Winter time it's harder to stay upbeat. Winter makes being outside not so enjoyable for me. If you're just going for a nice stroll it's one thing but winter makes everything harder to do. Your fingers turn numb when you're trying put a nail in concrete, etc. Just trying to put it in perspective because sometimes people have a hard time imagining something they haven't had to deal with (especially depression for example).
Definitely excercise helps a lot but it's one of the hardest things to want to do if you're dealing with depression and already spent all day working your rear off to make a living, whether you're working physically all day like am, or just have a mentally straining job stuck in the office all day.
I'm no expert in mental illness, but I certainly have seen and dealt with a lot of it in my prior law enforcement career.
Step 1) Lay off the beer. Beer is for losers. Seriously.
I was depressed as a teenager/young adult. One day, I looked in the mirror, told myself to snap out of it, stop being depressed, and live life to the fullest. Haven't been depressed since then. Obviously, that wont work for everyone, but for many, depression is a frame of mind and negative outlook that can be overcome with positive vibes.
Step 1) Lay off the beer. Beer is for losers. Seriously.
I was depressed as a teenager/young adult. One day, I looked in the mirror, told myself to snap out of it, stop being depressed, and live life to the fullest. Haven't been depressed since then. Obviously, that wont work for everyone, but for many, depression is a frame of mind and negative outlook that can be overcome with positive vibes.
Originally Posted by Rock_Hudstone
Leave the psychotropic pill pushers as the last resort instead of the other way around.
I know quite a few people who say an antidepressant, antipsychotic, anticonvulsive(Depakote and Lamictal are also indicated for mania bipolar disorder as well) helped them out but the side effects aren't to be taken lightly. I knew of an ex-friend who stopped taking Cymbalta because of his "sex life" which is non-existent. He now smokes a lot of pot but also has a bad family situation.
Leave the psychotropic pill pushers as the last resort instead of the other way around.
I know quite a few people who say an antidepressant, antipsychotic, anticonvulsive(Depakote and Lamictal are also indicated for mania bipolar disorder as well) helped them out but the side effects aren't to be taken lightly. I knew of an ex-friend who stopped taking Cymbalta because of his "sex life" which is non-existent. He now smokes a lot of pot but also has a bad family situation.
Originally Posted by caprice_2nv
Originally Posted by john_pifer
Exercise, if you aren't already. And, by that, I mean vigorous exercise - not just walking a few blocks. Running or aggressive bicycle riding. You need vigorous exercise to stimulate your cardiovascular system and get your natural endorphins (the body's natural painkillers and mood-enhancing substances) flowing.
Forget treating it with drugs. And stop drinking, or, limit yourself to no more than a couple of drinks per day.
Schedule a trip to the mountains and do some camping and hiking. See some sights. Take a trip somewhere you've always wanted to go. Things like this change your perspective on life.
Do some things to help others who are less fortunate than yourself.
Pray.
Personally, I work for land surveyor so I spend most of the day excercising. I can't run because I'm carrying expensive equipment and sometimes heavy loads, several items at once by myself trying not to drop anything. I am usually moving fairly fast though because the pressure is always on to get all the jobs done. I often feel I have to skip my half an hour lunch break to get the work done.
I also ride my mountain bike in the summer months. Winter time it's harder to stay upbeat. Winter makes being outside not so enjoyable for me. If you're just going for a nice stroll it's one thing but winter makes everything harder to do. Your fingers turn numb when you're trying put a nail in concrete, etc. Just trying to put it in perspective because sometimes people have a hard time imagining something they haven't had to deal with (especially depression for example).
Definitely excercise helps a lot but it's one of the hardest things to want to do if you're dealing with depression and already spent all day working your rear off to make a living, whether you're working physically all day like am, or just have a mentally straining job stuck in the office all day.
I understand the fatigue try running on a treadmill after 5 minutes of a vigorous run you will feel refreshed and be able to get a nice cardio workout in.
Originally Posted by john_pifer
Exercise, if you aren't already. And, by that, I mean vigorous exercise - not just walking a few blocks. Running or aggressive bicycle riding. You need vigorous exercise to stimulate your cardiovascular system and get your natural endorphins (the body's natural painkillers and mood-enhancing substances) flowing.
Forget treating it with drugs. And stop drinking, or, limit yourself to no more than a couple of drinks per day.
Schedule a trip to the mountains and do some camping and hiking. See some sights. Take a trip somewhere you've always wanted to go. Things like this change your perspective on life.
Do some things to help others who are less fortunate than yourself.
Pray.
Personally, I work for land surveyor so I spend most of the day excercising. I can't run because I'm carrying expensive equipment and sometimes heavy loads, several items at once by myself trying not to drop anything. I am usually moving fairly fast though because the pressure is always on to get all the jobs done. I often feel I have to skip my half an hour lunch break to get the work done.
I also ride my mountain bike in the summer months. Winter time it's harder to stay upbeat. Winter makes being outside not so enjoyable for me. If you're just going for a nice stroll it's one thing but winter makes everything harder to do. Your fingers turn numb when you're trying put a nail in concrete, etc. Just trying to put it in perspective because sometimes people have a hard time imagining something they haven't had to deal with (especially depression for example).
Definitely excercise helps a lot but it's one of the hardest things to want to do if you're dealing with depression and already spent all day working your rear off to make a living, whether you're working physically all day like am, or just have a mentally straining job stuck in the office all day.
I understand the fatigue try running on a treadmill after 5 minutes of a vigorous run you will feel refreshed and be able to get a nice cardio workout in.
Lots of good advice here, and especially the mentions of the source of depression. How one tackles depression effectively can certainly depend on the cause, if a cause or causes can be identified. No alcohol is a good start when trying to tackle the issue, since it throws everything else on the fritz; it's a variable that doesn't help. The nice thing (and bad thing) is that there are many different ways to tackle depression. One just has to find the one that best suits one's circumstances.
Someone said to eat salad. However, I can feel superhuman after eating steak for many days.
The best thing most people can do (even if they're not depressed) is simply stop eating/drinking so much sugar. It's arguably worse than alcohol. Lots of people don't drink enough water, either.
I disagree with requiring vigorous exercise. If a person basically sits in a chair all day, even one single minute of mild weightlifting a day can make them feel so much better and stronger.
If a depressed person avoids professional help for whatever reason, note that St. John's wort is an over-the-counter herb and is prescribed for depression by professional doctors in various first-world countries. It can take weeks to kick in, but yes, it works. Or at least can work depending on the person. (insert disclaimer here: This is not medical advice. Take it at your own risk. etc.)
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Don't allow yourself to be alone.
He can't be alone, since he has us.
The best thing most people can do (even if they're not depressed) is simply stop eating/drinking so much sugar. It's arguably worse than alcohol. Lots of people don't drink enough water, either.
I disagree with requiring vigorous exercise. If a person basically sits in a chair all day, even one single minute of mild weightlifting a day can make them feel so much better and stronger.
If a depressed person avoids professional help for whatever reason, note that St. John's wort is an over-the-counter herb and is prescribed for depression by professional doctors in various first-world countries. It can take weeks to kick in, but yes, it works. Or at least can work depending on the person. (insert disclaimer here: This is not medical advice. Take it at your own risk. etc.)
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Don't allow yourself to be alone.
He can't be alone, since he has us.
Originally Posted by caprice_2nv
Originally Posted by john_pifer
Exercise, if you aren't already. And, by that, I mean vigorous exercise - not just walking a few blocks. Running or aggressive bicycle riding. You need vigorous exercise to stimulate your cardiovascular system and get your natural endorphins (the body's natural painkillers and mood-enhancing substances) flowing.
Forget treating it with drugs. And stop drinking, or, limit yourself to no more than a couple of drinks per day.
Schedule a trip to the mountains and do some camping and hiking. See some sights. Take a trip somewhere you've always wanted to go. Things like this change your perspective on life.
Do some things to help others who are less fortunate than yourself.
Pray.
Personally, I work for land surveyor so I spend most of the day excercising. I can't run because I'm carrying expensive equipment and sometimes heavy loads, several items at once by myself trying not to drop anything. I am usually moving fairly fast though because the pressure is always on to get all the jobs done. I often feel I have to skip my half an hour lunch break to get the work done.
I also ride my mountain bike in the summer months. Winter time it's harder to stay upbeat. Winter makes being outside not so enjoyable for me. If you're just going for a nice stroll it's one thing but winter makes everything harder to do. Your fingers turn numb when you're trying put a nail in concrete, etc. Just trying to put it in perspective because sometimes people have a hard time imagining something they haven't had to deal with (especially depression for example).
Definitely excercise helps a lot but it's one of the hardest things to want to do if you're dealing with depression and already spent all day working your rear off to make a living, whether you're working physically all day like am, or just have a mentally straining job stuck in the office all day.
First, walking around is not what I'm talking about. I'm an aircraft mechanic, so I also have a physical job, during the course of which I'm walking around between hangars, up and down stairs, crawling through airplanes, carrying and lifting heavy loads, etc. That is not vigorous exercise. It doesn't get your heart rate and breathing rate anywhere near where running (or even jogging) or aggressive biking or weightlifting, etc, does. That's what is required to get your natural endorphins and hormones flowing to get you feeling better.
Your comments about not wanting to get outside in winter, or not wanting to exercise after a long day at work are just excuses. Sorry to put it that way, but they are. We all deal with weather, and we all work hard all day long. If you really want to make changes in your life, you have to make up your mind to get past mental obstacles like weather or thinking youre too tired to exercise.
Another thing I'll say about exercise is that it makes eating much more enjoyable. When you do some vigorous exercise, it makes you much more hungry and your food tastes better. You look forward to meal times and have a better appetite. Not to mention the fact that when you're doing vigorous exercise and you're at a healthy weight, you can eat anything you want and not have to worry about gaining weight. A lot of people get on the miserable cycle of diet, gain, diet, gain, diet, gain, and not being able to eat good-tasting food because they're too worried about their weight. And, for someone like me who loves to eat, that would be a terrible way to live.
Originally Posted by john_pifer
Exercise, if you aren't already. And, by that, I mean vigorous exercise - not just walking a few blocks. Running or aggressive bicycle riding. You need vigorous exercise to stimulate your cardiovascular system and get your natural endorphins (the body's natural painkillers and mood-enhancing substances) flowing.
Forget treating it with drugs. And stop drinking, or, limit yourself to no more than a couple of drinks per day.
Schedule a trip to the mountains and do some camping and hiking. See some sights. Take a trip somewhere you've always wanted to go. Things like this change your perspective on life.
Do some things to help others who are less fortunate than yourself.
Pray.
Personally, I work for land surveyor so I spend most of the day excercising. I can't run because I'm carrying expensive equipment and sometimes heavy loads, several items at once by myself trying not to drop anything. I am usually moving fairly fast though because the pressure is always on to get all the jobs done. I often feel I have to skip my half an hour lunch break to get the work done.
I also ride my mountain bike in the summer months. Winter time it's harder to stay upbeat. Winter makes being outside not so enjoyable for me. If you're just going for a nice stroll it's one thing but winter makes everything harder to do. Your fingers turn numb when you're trying put a nail in concrete, etc. Just trying to put it in perspective because sometimes people have a hard time imagining something they haven't had to deal with (especially depression for example).
Definitely excercise helps a lot but it's one of the hardest things to want to do if you're dealing with depression and already spent all day working your rear off to make a living, whether you're working physically all day like am, or just have a mentally straining job stuck in the office all day.
First, walking around is not what I'm talking about. I'm an aircraft mechanic, so I also have a physical job, during the course of which I'm walking around between hangars, up and down stairs, crawling through airplanes, carrying and lifting heavy loads, etc. That is not vigorous exercise. It doesn't get your heart rate and breathing rate anywhere near where running (or even jogging) or aggressive biking or weightlifting, etc, does. That's what is required to get your natural endorphins and hormones flowing to get you feeling better.
Your comments about not wanting to get outside in winter, or not wanting to exercise after a long day at work are just excuses. Sorry to put it that way, but they are. We all deal with weather, and we all work hard all day long. If you really want to make changes in your life, you have to make up your mind to get past mental obstacles like weather or thinking youre too tired to exercise.
Another thing I'll say about exercise is that it makes eating much more enjoyable. When you do some vigorous exercise, it makes you much more hungry and your food tastes better. You look forward to meal times and have a better appetite. Not to mention the fact that when you're doing vigorous exercise and you're at a healthy weight, you can eat anything you want and not have to worry about gaining weight. A lot of people get on the miserable cycle of diet, gain, diet, gain, diet, gain, and not being able to eat good-tasting food because they're too worried about their weight. And, for someone like me who loves to eat, that would be a terrible way to live.
Effective treatment for depression deals with what is going on right now. Not with what mom or pop did to you when you were a kid. And it requires the one seeking help to take ownership. What is wrong with my life in the here and now. You can't change the world but you can change the way you think about the world. That is the basis of cognitive/behavior therapy. Beware of any therapist that wants to mine your childhood and asks the big you to write a letter to the little you. You are dealing with a Toxic Shame therapist who will take your money for a year and you will wind up with blotto zilch.
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