Dealership Oil Change Experience

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On Friday, I took the Altima to the dealer (not my usual dealer) for an oil change and inspection. I had planned to change the oil myself, but the weather was too cold for me to do the oil change in my unheated garage. Since I have a stash of Valvoline SynPower, I brought two gallons with me.

I had a coupon for a $24.95 oil change from the dealer's website and the advisor said after discounting for the coupon and for me bringing my own oil, the cost of the oil change would be $14.43. The breakdown for that was labor ($9.99), oil filter ($2.95), disposal and taxes ($1.43). That was the price given to me over the phone by the advisor, though when I arrived their express service manager tried to charge me $17.99 but the advisor I had spoken with on the phone quickly stepped in and corrected the price. It was slightly disappointing that not all advisors were informed on how to discount appropriately for both the coupon and for bringing my own oil, but the situation was taken care of promptly.

The oil change itself, went well. Even with no appointment, at 7:30am, they took the car in immediately and spent 35 minutes on the car. They allowed the oil to drain for about 10 minutes, did not overfill, gave the car a thorough inspection and even bagged my leftover oil (to prevent spillage) before putting it back in the car. Good work from the techs. Since I asked that they investigate a slight steering wheel vibration at idle, the advisor had the car go through the main shop as opposed to their express maintenance lanes. So, I saw from the glass window that the car was worked on by their master tech, who was assisted at times by the apprentice tech who runs the express maintenance bays. They were "officially" unable to duplicate the steering wheel vibration, but they did perform an idle air volume relearn which seems to have mostly resolved the problem.

But here is where the experience goes bad. I got home and looked at the invoice to find that a Nippon Oil Filter from worldpac was used instead of a Genuine Nissan filter. I called the advisor, and he told me that they use the Nippon oil filters when a customer uses an oil change coupon as it keeps their costs down. I was told that if I wanted a Genuine Nissan filter next time, there would be an upcharge. Since I had no issue with the Nippon filter, the conversation ended there, but I wasn't too pleased by the answer either as I would have liked to be informed upfront if something other than a Genuine Nissan part was to be used.

Later, I also noticed that a crush washer was not billed out on the invoice. I was slightly concerned that it had not been replaced, since Nissans are very sensitive about the crush washer. This time, I called the service manager directly. He told me that the crush washer does get changed, but it is included in the labor charge, which seems reasonable since it is sort of a shop supply and shop supply charges are not legal in CA? I also used this opportunity to ask him about the filter problem.

The service manager himself said that most cars they service are to be serviced only using the Genuine Nissan filter, with very few exceptions. He also said that coupon or not, it should have no effect as to whether I was to receive a Genuine Nissan or a Nippon filter. He looked up my invoice and said that I can bring the car right back and he would put a factory filter on there for me as he wanted to make it right. I declined since the Nippon filter was fine, so he said he would make a notation in my record from now on to ensure that only factory filters would be used. I also mentioned to him my conversation with the advisor that there would be an upcharge for a factory filter if I used the coupon, and he said that this should not have happened and he would get to the bottom of this. From the phone call, it seems like the service manager was making a genuine effort to correct the situation and he was not completely aware of what was going on. Unfortunately, it just seems like not everyone at this dealer is on the same page.

I apologize that the story was a bit long-winded, but this was the first time that I have dealt with a situation like this, as I would have never expected a dealership to use anything other than Genuine parts unless I was told otherwise upfront. Have any of you experienced a similar situation-- the dealership using something other than Genuine parts without informing you upfront?

How would you guys feel if you were in this situation? How would you feel about the way the service manager decided to handle the situation? Would you return, especially since the techs did a good job?

Thoughts?
 
Originally Posted By: crinkles
i wouldn't sweat it. if youre OK with the filter everything's fine. I doubt it matters much.

Exactly, in fact one may argue that the Nippon filter is superior to the Genuine Nissan filter since it does not have the cardboard end caps, even though it lacks the silicone ADBV. But the point is, if the dealer intended on using non-Genuine parts, I should have been informed upfront.
 
I never understand how they get away with charging so little for oil changes anyway. Obviously they are losing money on the oil change to get a chance to find other things to fix.
 
Originally Posted By: Burt
I never understand how they get away with charging so little for oil changes anyway. Obviously they are losing money on the oil change to get a chance to find other things to fix.

That's why advisors love to sell those glorified 7500 mile packages, because they can get away with charging $80-100 for them. Although they are viewed as rip-offs, they are actually what they should be charging for an oil change, rotate tires and inspection.

Oil changes are priced at $30-$40 because that is the market price. When I took my Saturn to the Cadillac dealer, I noticed from the invoice that they paid the tech 0.3 hours to do the oil change and 0.3 hours to perform the GM GoodWrench multi-point inspection. That is 0.6 hours at the shop's labor rate of $120/hr, or $72 in labor alone! And I paid $29.95 for the oil change.

Of course, most dealers won't pay their techs for the multi-point inspections, only the oil change itself. Even then, 0.3 hours at $120/hr is still worth $36-- and if that labor was being earned from say, an alternator replacement, they would have earned that full $36. So, oil changes must be a real money loser for dealerships if they are unable to upsell brakes or some highly profitable maintenance work.
 
Originally Posted By: hate2work
Originally Posted By: The Critic
But here is where the experience goes bad.


They treated you like gold. What exactly are you whining about?


+1!

I agree they should have told you about the substitution on the filter, but as you yourself state, it is arguably a better filter, and as you also point out, they probably made no money on this job. In my opinion, the techs did an outstanding job, and the advisor and service manager were both responsive and concerned about you as a customer - I'd be looking for reasons to spend more money there!
 
I think you need to find something important to get your nickers in a bunch about.

It's just an oil change and they clearly went above and beyond with your nit picky requests, and now you are concerned over an oil filter brand. Simply amazing.
 
without piling it on I will.

I would hate to see what you do when something really relevant happens to you?

I never saw such whining for a nothing out of the ordinary experience. How cold is it in CA anyway? Maybe you should just do it yourself if you want it done to your satisfaction.

I can imagine what the tech's say after you leave.
 
For a 15 dollar oil change. You think they use genuine parts? Noooo. Absolutely no money is made at all on the oil change. That coupon is just to get you in the door, its advertisement. A local dodge dealer advertise 9.95 oil changes. And they use the cheapest sm rated oil and filters they can find. What dealership was this? Wonder if I'm near
 
This is what happens when you "assume." When I had my Honda, the dealer would charge around $12 for the labour when I brought in my own oil/filter. The Firestone dealer charges about the same. I think you were treated well and I would go back again.
 
Darn they didn't charge enough for all the hassle you put them through.20 years back I worked at a Nissan store.We did $19.99 oil and filer changes.If anything more then grunt labor did it we lost our butt.We did about 400 oil changes a month.Just drive ins.Not counting the cars in the shop.I got fed up with loosing money and went to $29.99 oil changes and NO coupons.Still did 400 stand alone oil changes but made about $5 bucks a car.I also stopped paying the techs for oil changes in tenths.Paid ALL $3.50 across the board.That was to stop loosing my butt when a line tech compared to grunt work did a oil change and make some profit.
 
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I think it's typical dealership treatment. Not too bad. But if you go to a nissan dealership for your nissan vehicle YOU WOULD expect to at least get Nissan OEM parts. Sorry but is that so hard to expect folks? Not asking too much...geez.

Hey its a recession. How many in here bargain hunt their oils? Why not use a coupon. It does not have to be a bait to bring the freaking car in so the dealership can find some other work to do.

Perhaps its still a fairly new car and all it needs is an oil change? Or maybe its to build customer good will until the car really needs repairs. Or its a marketing ploy.

Sorry I don't see an oil change as a reason to do more work at the same time as the oil change.

Why not an oil change because you came in for an oil change.
Good grief folks!
 
Originally Posted By: volvomix
without piling it on I will.

I would hate to see what you do when something really relevant happens to you?

I never saw such whining for a nothing out of the ordinary experience. How cold is it in CA anyway? Maybe you should just do it yourself if you want it done to your satisfaction.

I can imagine what the tech's say after you leave.
That dealer would get his A** handed to him if the OP called Nissan CS about a Dealer Service Centre using non OEM/Service parts. That is a absolute NO-NO. If a dealer centre put a ROC filter on my car I would get the OEM or better pronto. The only reason the Service Manager bent over was because MOST customers are apathetic or ignorant and they can get away with these bad practices. I can ABSOLUTELY assure you the SM knows exactly whats going on with the nippon filters downsell, but only backed off after a "smart" customer complained. Good for the OP!
 
Wow - to see that some people consider being lied to as being 'treated like gold' really does back up my feeling that humanity is going to [censored] in a handbasket.

I wouldn't give a [censored] if they sold you $750 worth of service for $15 - if I didn't get what I was supposed to get, then they fail and should have their wrist slapped. You can't just sell a promise - you have to deliver. Not making any money off of it? STOP DOING IT!!!

You were lied to and deceived. Don't go back.

Good luck finding a group of humans that actually have a decent set of morals.

I second the 'do it yourself' suggestion, without the condescention that came along with it.

"If you want it done right, do it yourself."

Cute little ASE Certified badges mean nothing.

Ok, I'm done with my rant. I'm just sick and tired of people trying to justify their crooked ways.
 
Sounds like they responded professionally to your concerns. However, if it's a Nissan dealer they should be using Nissan OEM parts. As mentioned previously, I doubt that's a practice authorized by Nissan.
 
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