Data Deep Dive - Valvoline Restore and Protect + Motor Oil Additives
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Please update with the Cliff Notes version after you watch it.
Efficiency is the gold standard however the oil filter companies don't share that data so the customer is left with marketing confusion instead. Show us the actual ISO tests for each model so we can make an informed decision on which filters to use.
Good vid. Thanks
Good vid. Thanks
Great overall vid!!
Key points:
Do NOT use oil additives.
Do use quality fuel additives.
Do use high efficiency oil and air filters.
No wear differences between brands.
There is Engine/Piston cleanliness differences between brands.
Valvoline Restore and Protect is no joke.
Key points:
Do NOT use oil additives.
Do use quality fuel additives.
Do use high efficiency oil and air filters.
No wear differences between brands.
There is Engine/Piston cleanliness differences between brands.
Valvoline Restore and Protect is no joke.
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Exactly
But if you watched this video, Lake's changed his tune from last year when he said you didn't need to buy/use the best, most expensive oil filters, as it was more important to changing the oil regularly. Today he's saying use filters with the highest efficiency and lowest micron ratings. The data analyzed by Chip Hewette shows the cleaner the oil stays, the less wear.
The term augmented is the use of additional additives not already in a blended oil product. Data showed as an average, this additional additive/augmentation neither helps or hurts wear. Obviously, this may or may not be true on an individual basis.
No, but he did mention in this video that he will be visiting Donaldson soon to discuss this.
I'm still waiting (now for 15 years) for the test data that shows cleaner oil doesn't result in less wear. I'd like to see Chip's data collection but make the particle size cut-off using the ISO 4406 data at 14u or 21u instead of 38u since filters on the low efficiency end of the spectrum will filter much less of the 20u/14u particles vs the 38u particles.
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Am I right? This video is over 2 hrs long? I like LSJ but …… Thanks to GW for the concise post!!
You're not used to watching videos like that at 2x?
Other than movies, everything I watch gets sped up.
Chip Hewette, who was presenting the data, had a long career as an engineer working at Afton. One of his coworkers mentioned he should try the Valvoline Restore and Protect in an older HD pickup with ~160k miles he'd bought for towing, so he started using it. He ended up getting a statistically relevant increase in mpg only by changing the oil to Valvoline Restore and Protect, which even he didn't believe until plotting the data using different modeling techniques.
Yep. Every time he interrupted Chip, I switched playback speed to 2x, then back to Normal when Chip was speaking. Lake is doing better, but he did mention his ADHD sometimes takes over (or something to that effect). I mostly skipped over the diesel presentation.
If you want to see data analyzed by Chip from ~8,000 oil samples from Speediagnostix, this is a video to watch. If you want to see how Chip took his own data from his vehicle and analyzed/plotted, it's a pretty good introduction to data analysis. Pop a top (or two) and kick back and enjoy (assuming you fast-forward at the appropriate times
).
Or is it just that they don't want to reveal their secret brew?
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