Daily supercharging kills Model 3 battery in 120,000 miles

Not exactly analogous to overcharging an EV but there are a couple of ways that an ICE vehicle can be damaged by gasoline. Letting a fuel injected car run dry may affect the electrical fuel pump. Overfilling the tank can cause evap system problems.
Probaby not $9,000 repairs like with an EV battery.
 
Did I miss it somewhere.. was $9000 the "goodwill battery price" or regular price.. I thought regular full price was about 20k.
 
Did I miss it somewhere.. was $9000 the "goodwill battery price" or regular price.. I thought regular full price was about 20k.
They might had included some goodwill, due to the age of the vehicle. Rideshare will of course rack up a ton of miles in a short period of time.
 
Umm, don't think so. Tesla must have given the owner a goodwill adjustment. Those batteries are closer to $20,000
I'm using what the article stated the cost was.

Aren't there different battery pack configurations for the Model 3? I would guess that could influence price depending on how it's equipped.

Also getting a new vs refurb battery pack, etc. We can speculate on this forever since the article doesn't provide provide many details in that regard.
 
Nobody in that study exclusively fast charged their car twice a day though, and they note at the bottom:


So, perhaps rideshare operation (this usage profile) doesn't allow for accommodating those caveats, hence his experience.
Yep, and nobody drove 100K in a year. This guy is an extreme case; an outlier. 300 miles per day maybe?
How many people drive any car that much?
It would be interesting to see what the results would be if he charged at home overnight to offset some of the Supercharging. Likely better, but still problematic.

Regardless, this is not the recommended use case for a Tesla or any EV.
 
I went to the video, some details on the car:
- 2019 Model 3 Standard Range Plus
- 120,000 miles put on in 12 months
- Starts charged at home, puts on 300+ miles a day, supercharging twice a day to 90%
- He started noticing a drop in battery capacity at ~100,000 miles, he contacted Tesla, they said that's to be expected, that every year, there would be a loss
- When it crapped the bed it started off with 170 miles of range, but then would only increase by 35 miles when he charged it. He then got a notification from Tesla that he needed to bring it in for them to look at it.
- His theory is that the car/Tesla intentionally set the 35 mile cap so that he'd know to bring it in, not that the battery had suddenly lost that much capacity
- The Tesla Service Manager told him "hey, listen, this is a 2019, and you put over 100,000 miles on it in one year, you put over 100,000 miles on a 4-year old battery, what do you think was going to happen? It's like a phone, if you put that kind of usage on your phone battery, it's definitely going to affect it."
- He does not mention any goodwill from Telsa on replacing the battery, but it may be less expensive because it's the Standard Range Plus battery, not the Long Range.
 
Neither of those things cost $9K to fix though. A fuel pump is a few hundred bucks typically, a carbon canister even less than that.
Also, the topic is that of the rate of charge (or filling a tank). You are correct, fast filling a fuel tank has no issues whatsoever.

The issue of running a tank dry, or overfilling and spilling on the ground, would be akin to running a battery to complete and utter discharge, or continuing to charge AFTER full charge has been attained (regardless of the rate of charge).

Relative to the thread topic, your point is salient; his is not.
 
Can you change the battery or are these one time use only....e-waste?
Looks like Apple offers replacing it for $99. I had assumed until you said this that it was junk.

I might have them replace the battery and get more years out of it.

Or I'll check iFixIt and maybe tackle it myself.
 
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