Cut open a Fram PH16 today. And another ?

[Chris142]

I did an oil change on a customers pickup last week. I put the old PH16 in our oil drain thing and let it sit for about a week to totally drain.

Yes it has cardboard end caps and a plastic bypass valve. There are not many pleats or folds in the element and they are not evenly spaced.

The rubber anti drain valve is rock hard

Well maybe not rock hard but definatly not soft and pliable.

The element was still firmly glued to the cardboard endcaps and the endcaps were evenly centered over the tube.

While I still wouldn't use a Fram oil filter this particular one was not THAT bad aside from the anti drain thing being hard.

FWIW I put a "Proline" filter back on it

Oh I have no way to post pics..Sorry.

Now on to my stuff. I'm gonna change the oil/filter on my 73' I.H. pickup tomorrow.

It calls for the PH8A sized filter. I have been running the smaller PH16 size filter because I can really hear the mains rattle with the larger filters. The truck sits more than it gets driven and I guess no filter will hold oil forever.

Running the smaller filter seems to quiet the knocks up when I first start it.

I have a Motorcraft FL300 and a Purolater L20081 with the bypass on the wrong end. I'm leaning toward the FL300......Any reason to use the L20081 instead?

 

[wavinwayne]

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Originally posted by Chris142:
...Oh I have no way to post pics..Sorry.....

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If you have any cut-open filter pics, e-mail them to me: [email protected] & I will post them for you.

 

[Chris142]

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Originally posted by wavinwayne:

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Originally posted by Chris142:
...Oh I have no way to post pics..Sorry.....

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If you have any cut-open filter pics, e-mail them to me: [email protected] & I will post them for you.

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Thx but I don't own a digi cam and ma doesn't want leaking oil filter parts on her scanner!

 

[pajim17057]

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Originally posted by Chris142:

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Originally posted by wavinwayne:

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Originally posted by Chris142:
...Oh I have no way to post pics..Sorry.....

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If you have any cut-open filter pics, e-mail them to me: [email protected] & I will post them for you.

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Thx but I don't own a digi cam and ma doesn't want leaking oil filter parts on her scanner!

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MOTHERS

 

[T-Keith]

What were you excepting? :dunno: You prety much covered most of Fram's downsides.

-T

 

[T-Keith]

A hard ADBV is a very big deal, was it in bypass like this one?

Do you know how long it was in the car?

 

[427Z06]

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Originally posted by Chris142:
It calls for the PH8A sized filter. I have been running the smaller PH16 size filter because I can really hear the mains rattle with the larger filters. The truck sits more than it gets driven and I guess no filter will hold oil forever.

Running the smaller filter seems to quiet the knocks up when I first start it.

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That's interesting. I have a vehicle with a FL1A on it that sits for weeks at a time and the oil pressure is immediate upon startup and no noises from the bearings. The filter threads even point down in the 4 o'clock direction. When I take the filter off, it's full off oil, even if it sat for days.

 

[Chris142]

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Originally posted by T-Keith:
A hard ADBV is a very big deal, was it in bypass like this one?

Do you know how long it was in the car?

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No it wasn't like that one. No clue how long it was on the truck.

I went with the FL-300 on my pickup. I like the bypass at the threaded end better than the Purolater one at the other end.