CrossClimate 3 Tire Release?

[jakeuten]

The Michelin CrossClimate was released in March of 2015. The CrossClimate 2’s came out in August of 2020. Can we hope for a CrossClimate 3 this year with a more competitive rating vs the new WeatherReady 2’s, 365 AW, WeatherActive, WRG5, and Quatrac Pro? Don’t get me wrong, they’re outstanding tires, but I feel as though the competition has caught up massively for a much lower asking price.

Any insight or details would be great. I haven’t followed tires for very long.

 

[gv70]

There's a high probability that they will release it soon but it's anyone's guess.
It is incredible that the CC2 beats out all these newer tires in most tests. For example even though the weather ready 2 is highly rated by tirerack in their testing it only matched the wet braking of the CC2 and in the dry the CC2 stops a few feet shorter. The wr2 does perform slightly better in the emergency lane change test.
The wr2 also weighs more depending on the tire size... Sometimes 5 or 6 lb more.... So when the CC3 is released I think we can expect some seriously good numbers...

 

[Patman]

I don’t know how popular the Nokian all weather tires are in the US but up here in Canada they have quite a name for themselves and I think European countries love them too. Not that long ago they released the new Remedy WRG5, that’s what I have on the Civic and they have been fantastic so far in the brutal winter we’ve had here. So Michelin might want to come out with the CC3 to try and keep up with Nokian

 

[jdmfish]

If they don’t: I’m going with the GY Weather Ready 2.

I currently have the CC2 on my Toyota. They are the best tires I’ve ever driven on (especially here in Michigan).

I’ll likely need a new set by fall/winter time 2025.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

If they don’t: I’m going with the GY Weather Ready 2.

I currently have the CC2 on my Toyota. They are the best tires I’ve ever driven on (especially here in Michigan).

I’ll likely need a new set by fall/winter time 2025.

Of the CC2 are the best tires you've ever had, and the Goodyear is a clone of the CC2 that still isn't quite as good, then why would you make the switch?

 

[skyactiv]

Of the CC2 are the best tires you've ever had, and the Goodyear is a clone of the CC2 that still isn't quite as good, then why would you make the switch?

Do you work for Michelin?

 

[skyactiv]

There's a high probability that they will release it soon but it's anyone's guess.
It is incredible that the CC2 beats out all these newer tires in most tests. For example even though the weather ready 2 is highly rated by tirerack in their testing it only matched the wet braking of the CC2 and in the dry the CC2 stops a few feet shorter. The wr2 does perform slightly better in the emergency lane change test.
The wr2 also weighs more depending on the tire size... Sometimes 5 or 6 lb more.... So when the CC3 is released I think we can expect some seriously good numbers...

The new Goodyear is supposedly quieter than the Michelin. That alone would make me choose it over the Michelin. If the Michelin CC3 or whatever replaces the CC2 comes out and is better than the Goodyear, I'd go for that. I'm not brand biased.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

I don’t know how popular the Nokian all weather tires are in the US but up here in Canada they have quite a name for themselves and I think European countries love them too. Not that long ago they released the new Remedy WRG5, that’s what I have on the Civic and they have been fantastic so far in the brutal winter we’ve had here. So Michelin might want to come out with the CC3 to try and keep up with Nokian

Nokian has been gaining more of a foothold here in the US over the past ten years or so but is still fairly niche overall, and more known for their full winter tires. A lot of people here have experienced dry-rot around the shoulders that can look alarming.

 

[gv70]

I don’t know how popular the Nokian all weather tires are in the US but up here in Canada they have quite a name for themselves and I think European countries love them too. Not that long ago they released the new Remedy WRG5, that’s what I have on the Civic and they have been fantastic so far in the brutal winter we’ve had here. So Michelin might want to come out with the CC3 to try and keep up with Nokian

Nokian WRG5 has been rated worse by consumer reports than the CC2. Particularly in handling, and wet braking. Not to mention it wears faster 50k than the warranty 60k and the CC2 significantly exceeds the warranty in terms of wear. Consumer reports estimates 95k, there are youtube videos that back it up as well.

 

[edyvw]

The real question is not initial performance, but performance after 20-30k, and Michelin is undisputed king in that discipline.
Why changing horse that keeps on winning?

 

[cheesepuffs2]

Do you work for Michelin?

Overreaction much? No, and when I recently purchased all-weather tires, I didn't buy the CC2 myself. But my point is valid that if he loves the CC2 then why make the shift?

If you're referring to how I called the Goodyear a CC2 clone, it is. Pull up a photo of it, the tread is a blatant copy.

 

[silversport]

actually it could be argued that the Michelin is a clone of the much earlier Goodyear Aquatred tire... https://www.vintagepaperads.com/assets/images/BZ0270.jpg

Bill

 

[WalkingWhale]

I got the Goodyear WeatherReady2 and let me say it is a seriously good tire. I know a lot of folks have sworn off Goodyear because of some political things that happened a while ago but this is one tire that is absolutely incredible in the snow and I honesty think is quieter than other comfort-focused tires.

 

[meep]

actually it could be argued that the Michelin is a clone of the much earlier Goodyear Aquatred tire... https://www.vintagepaperads.com/assets/images/BZ0270.jpg

Bill

Those were exceptional tires back in the day. I never understood why they cancelled them as the replacement wasnt.

Then in the early 2010s Goodyear had another knockout all-season - I don’t recall the name but they topped the tire rack reviews, edged past Michelin, and we bought a set, and they were excellent as well. I’ve never enjoyed another Goodyear tire. Why do they get something good and then discontinue them?

I’ve been going between Michelin (I’ve finally had some kool-aid), Yokohama and continental. The new Pirelli line has some promise to it as well. Used to be die-hard Bridgestone but stopped with RWD trucks because they just can’t make a rain tire good for a pickup.

 

[nickaluch]

actually it could be argued that the Michelin is a clone of the much earlier Goodyear Aquatred tire... https://www.vintagepaperads.com/assets/images/BZ0270.jpg

Bill

I had a set of Goodyear tiempo tires very early 80,s the original all season tire's. I will say a great tire considering it's the first radial tires I ever had before that I only had bias ply. But not great in snow on a rear drive car even bias ply snows were better.

 

[IndyIan]

The real question is not initial performance, but performance after 20-30k, and Michelin is undisputed king in that discipline.
Why changing horse that keeps on winning?

Really? I haven't bought a lot of michelin's but lots of them come with less tread depth to start, which has some advantages, but for winter driving I don't like it when tires aquaplane in slush, and every Xice 1,2, and 3 tire we've had gets pretty terrible ~8/32. So starting at 10.5 or 10/32 isn't a selling point for me at least.
This time we went with a 12/32 depth winter tire that cost half as much, and my wife says they are much better in slush than the old Xice2's were new and last year at 8/32... I am confident the Xice2's are going to be pretty good 3 season tires though as they were great for every condition but winter for us.

 

[edyvw]

Really? I haven't bought a lot of michelin's but lots of them come with less tread depth to start, which has some advantages, but for winter driving I don't like it when tires aquaplane in slush, and every Xice 1,2, and 3 tire we've had gets pretty terrible ~8/32. So starting at 10.5 or 10/32 isn't a selling point for me at least.
This time we went with a 12/32 depth winter tire that cost half as much, and my wife says they are much better in slush than the old Xice2's were new and last year at 8/32... I am confident the Xice2's are going to be pretty good 3 season tires though as they were great for every condition but winter for us.

I had Xi2 Latitude on two vehicles, and they were superb tires.
Which are many? Their Premier LTX was the only tire that started low (I had it). Other starts like any other tire. The only winter tire I had that had significantly deeper threads was Blizzak DM-V2 (13/32), but it was just a good tire with horrible lateral ice handling, and it was wearing out like crazy. I would, for example, take Xi2 over DM-V2 any day. But yes, DM-V2 had just a bit better slush performance, and then again, Xi2 had far superior ice and packed snow braking performance (which is actually the most important variable). Their Xi3 was very popular here. Yes, there are better tires when it comes to slush performance than Xi3, but that is not because compund did not retain its initial performance but because they were designed that way. On that note, after 20K miles Michelin winter tires will have a deeper thread than any other snow tires after the same mileage. So, you are talking one performance aspect that depends on design not performance retention, because of the deteriorating compound performance.
Now, going back to the initial performance, thread depth is not indicative of all aspects of performance, for example, dry or wet. I have BF Goodrich on Pilot, which has really good hydroplaning performance but absolutely horrible wet handling and braking. The most important thing is whether the compound keeps its performance. That is what I was referring.

 

[Ranger83]

On sale in July.

 

[Geekhead]

The Michelin CrossClimate was released in March of 2015. The CrossClimate 2’s came out in August of 2020. Can we hope for a CrossClimate 3 this year with a more competitive rating vs the new WeatherReady 2’s, 365 AW, WeatherActive, WRG5, and Quatrac Pro? Don’t get me wrong, they’re outstanding tires, but I feel as though the competition has caught up massively for a much lower asking price.

Any insight or details would be great. I haven’t followed tires for very long.

CC2 owner for about 3 years and it did everything I asked it to do in all seasons. Noise not any worse than OEM Nexen tires and overall performance superior in all categories. I would replace again with whatever is the latest design.

 

[SubLGT]

https://www.blackcircles.com/news/new-michelin-crossclimate-3