Cleaning and lubricating the Glock

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: heathenbrewing
Originally Posted By: Tempest
Glocks can rust!

Sure, any gun can rust if it is abused. I have gone scuba diving in the ocean a dozen or more times with my Glock and not a speck of rust on it.

Of course, I clean it ASAP after diving and use spring cups.



Just curious as to why you would dive with your gun???

 

[heathenbrewing]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: heathenbrewing
Originally Posted By: Tempest
Glocks can rust!

Sure, any gun can rust if it is abused. I have gone scuba diving in the ocean a dozen or more times with my Glock and not a speck of rust on it.

Of course, I clean it ASAP after diving and use spring cups.



Just curious as to why you would dive with your gun???


Makes for decent defense against sharks. I didnt have the $$$ to buy a shark stick, so I went with my Glock.

 

[dnewton3]

Just a few words of caution about under water activities with your Glock.

1st - NEVER use anything other than FMJ round nose ammo. The propensity for a hollow point to open while in the barrel is VERY likely and VERY dangerous. At the very least it may exit the barrel and then open pre-target, which all but expends the energy before you want it to. Also, the ammo should be certified for hydo-emersion to ensure reliable firing.

2nd - unless you have the special springs cups, or modified yours PROPERLY, the striker will not always move forward quick enough to ignite the primer reliably.

3rd - Can you say hearing damage? Most all liquids transmit sound waves on a hugely exponential gradient.

How do I know? They actually covered these topics in one of my Glock Armorer certification classes many years back.

Not that getting eaten by a shark is any fun either ...

 

[Tempest]

Back in the day when I worked a gun store, another guy fired off several hollow points in his pool from a Glock. They all went off, and none of them damaged the gun (surprising to me). He did not have his ears underwater when firing, however.

 

[heathenbrewing]

Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Just a few words of caution about under water activities with your Glock.

1st - NEVER use anything other than FMJ round nose ammo. The propensity for a hollow point to open while in the barrel is VERY likely and VERY dangerous. At the very least it may exit the barrel and then open pre-target, which all but expends the energy before you want it to. Also, the ammo should be certified for hydo-emersion to ensure reliable firing.

2nd - unless you have the special springs cups, or modified yours PROPERLY, the striker will not always move forward quick enough to ignite the primer reliably.

3rd - Can you say hearing damage? Most all liquids transmit sound waves on a hugely exponential gradient.

How do I know? They actually covered these topics in one of my Glock Armorer certification classes many years back.

Not that getting eaten by a shark is any fun either ...



The entire gun should have no air bubbles in it as well. Along with some other precautions. Read more before you attempt to modify your Glock and before shooting underwater.

 

[kargo27]

How close do you have to be to a shark (or radical Muslim) while underwater for the shot to be effective?

 

[heathenbrewing]

It depends on whos article you read....

Ive read everything that the gun wont fire (false) to a range of 100ft (i believe that false as well). My guess is 15-50ft, and having never shot mine underwater, it is just that - a guess.

 

[XS650]

Originally Posted By: heathenbrewing
It depends on whos article you read....

Ive read everything that the gun wont fire (false) to a range of 100ft (i believe that false as well). My guess is 15-50ft, and having never shot mine underwater, it is just that - a guess.



Maybe 5 feet before it's too slow to penetrate skin. Probably less.

Google to the rescue...
Quote:
'Mythbusters' tried a series of experiments to see if diving underwater would keep you safe. Their conclusion was - surprisingly ? - that it takes
What was really impressive about the experiments was that it was only the slower bullets that survived the impact with the water. Anything fired from a gun larger than a small handgun simply shattered into tiny fragments as it hit the water's surface.


When you fire the gun underwater, the round will also leave the barrel a lot slower because you are moving the mass of water out of the barrel in addition to the mass of the bullet and spent propellant.


I would like to see what the barrel pressures are when fired in water compared to firing in air.

Do the underwater sharksmanship instructions tell you to jam the barrel into the shark before you pull the trigger?

 

[heathenbrewing]

Originally Posted By: XS650


Google to the rescue...
Quote:
'Mythbusters' tried a series of experiments to see if diving underwater would keep you safe. Their conclusion was - surprisingly ? - that it takes
What was really impressive about the experiments was that it was only the slower bullets that survived the impact with the water. Anything fired from a gun larger than a small handgun simply shattered into tiny fragments as it hit the water's surface.


When you fire the gun underwater, the round will also leave the barrel a lot slower because you are moving the mass of water out of the barrel in addition to the mass of the bullet and spent propellant.

I would like to see what the barrel pressures are when fired in water compared to firing in air.

Do the underwater sharksmanship instructions tell you to jam the barrel into the shark before you pull the trigger?


FYI - Shooting a gun above the water level and then into is COMPLETELY different than shooting a gun underwater. I have seen video if a glock fireing underwater and can promise the bullet travels a lot more than 5 feet.

1 - Correct.

2 - Ok....

3 - No.

 

[chevrofreak]

I've seen Glocks shot underwater. The bullet spirals toward the target, so you're lucky to hit where you aim at 15 feet. The bullet also doesn't have enough power to penetrate a wooden door.

To use one effectively against a shark you need to put the barrel against their gills before firing. The blast will probably do as much damage as the bullet will.

 

[Mystic]

I just now received my Jardine's Custom grease for lubing my Glock Model 22. It took a long time to come. I was thinking it was never going to come.

The Weapons Grease is a very easy flowing grease that will stay put but still flow well enough to not slow down a slide. It is red in color which makes it easy to see areas have lubrication.

The Glock actually requires 2 greases-the Weapons Grease and a Moly containing grease for some parts. Most guns, like the 1911, would require only the Weapons Grease. A large tube of that Weapons Grease is only about 6 dollars and some change. The 2 greases together cost me only about 13 dollars and change. That includes shipping.

I got careless when I was opening the package and cut my finger with my Old Timer's pocket knife.

I can hardly wait to go shooting and see how the grease works. Even if you shoot once a month or son the tube of grease will probably last a while.

The grease comes in easy to apply tubes that are considerably larger than the grease tubes you get from Wilson Combat.

 

[Tempest]

Wow. Surprised it took so long. I got mine right from the "source"

so I didn't go through the website. I'm not a grease fan, but this is the best grease for guns that I have seen and the only one that I will use. And I really don't think you need the moly grease for the glock. The Jardine's should work just fine as it has AW/EP chemistry.

 

[Mystic]

I appreciate that you told me about this Jardine's Custom grease. I never would have found out about it otherwise in all probability. I can't really say anything until I have actually shot my gun using the grease and then cleaned my gun. But I already like some things.

I like how you get more grease then you do from some others.

I like how the grease is red colored so you can see that you have lubrication on an area or part.

I can see that the grease seems to flow very well. It is almost like a very thick oil or a combination of oil and grease. It should not slow down a slide but it should be able to stay put.

I talked on the phone with the Jardine Custom guy and he told me that a Glock really requires two greases. You could get by with just the Weapon Grade Grease no doubt. I will probably try using just the one grease and also both and see what happens. My first impression is good but like I said I can't really say anything until I go shoot my gun-which will be a while because it is snowing here.

 

[bruce381]

""my gun-which will be a while because it is snowing here.""

Ahh shooting in the snow priceless


bruce

 

[Forest]

I like my 1911'S and so forth but Glock makes one of the best. I have a .40 and reload. You use the right powder so you don't stress the case. As for off the shelve ammo since the late 80's I've never had a Kaboom boom boom or hand ouch. I've maybe had only had 2-3 jams out of 8 Glocks since the late 80's. Great pistols.
I've qualified with Glocks 40, 45 and 1911 45.

As for oil use whatever you want I use Gunbutter because it sticks. Like Tempest said there are 6 points to lube but an oil rag is all you need. Don't overlube use very little oil.

 

[Mystic]

I am hoping that this Jardine's Custom Weapon Grease will fill the bill for me. It is relatively not expensive and I like the idea of some lube on a gun that will stay place but not slow down a slide too much.

One thing that I did not mention above the Jardine Custom Weapon Grease is supposed to get the job done from -50 F. to +600 F. Pretty good for a grease!