check this spec out - suitable for VW 502/504?

[OldBaldy]

Looks like a very strong spec to me....thoughts?
That ultra high TBN gives the game away that it's a truck oil, IMO.
The strong low pour point indicates it's not a cracked GrpIII, IMO.

Viscosity class : 5w30
Density at +15 °C : 0.86 g/cm³ DIN 51757
Viscosity at -30 °C : < 6.600mPa.s DIN 51562
at +40 °C : 73.5 mm²/s DIN 51562
at +100 °C : 12.0 mm²/s DIN 51562
Viscosity index : 164 DIN ISO 2909
High temperature high
shear viscosity : 3.6 mm²/s
Flash point : 220 °C DIN ISO 2592
Pour point : -54 °C DIN ISO 3016
Strong base number TBN : 16.0 mg KOH/g DIN ISO 3771
Evaporation loss (Noack) : 7.5 wt % DIN 51581T2
Ash, sulphate : 2.0 g/100 g DIN 51575


PS Guess which oil....!

 

[xxch4osxx]

GC

 

[OldBaldy]

Nope!

 

[Quattro Pete]

TBN of 16? Whoa! I'd like to see if it'd get confirmed by a VOA.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
GC

GC is not 5w30.

 

[OldBaldy]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
TBN of 16? Whoa! I'd like to see if it'd get confirmed by a VOA.


It also has a OCI of 120000kms (75000 miles) in large trucks

 

[xxch4osxx]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
GC

GC is not 5w30.
lol it was a quick guess

 

[xxch4osxx]

Originally Posted By: OldBaldy
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
TBN of 16? Whoa! I'd like to see if it'd get confirmed by a VOA.


It also has a OCI of 120000kms (75000 miles) in large trucks
Texas Refinerys 15w40 Something like that

 

[spasm3]

castrol elixion?

 

[OldBaldy]

Nope.
Tip...it's German.

 

[Quattro Pete]

OK, found it:
http://www.lubromoly.com/liquimoly/produktdb.nsf/id/e_4600.html

I wonder what the additive package looks like.

 

[Quattro Pete]

And as far as it being a suitable 502/504 oil...

502/504 oils need to have sulphated ash content below 1.5%. This LubroMoly oil has it listed at 2%.

 

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: OldBaldy
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
TBN of 16? Whoa! I'd like to see if it'd get confirmed by a VOA.


It also has a OCI of 120000kms (75000 miles) in large trucks

Wonder how long you could run it in a gas engine?
what does it cost and where would you buy it?

 

[OldBaldy]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
And as far as it being a suitable 502/504 oil...

502/504 oils need to have sulphated ash content below 1.5%. This LubroMoly oil has it listed at 2%.


ahh yes..good point. That's for the 504 spec, not 502 though, right?
Maybe that's a GOOD thing, from an anti-wear perspective?

So, we have a high ash/phosphate oil with VERY high TBN and HTHS greater than 3.5, and a nice low Noack, with great pour point and high VI.

Sounds like it could be worth a try in the S4 V8....I'll keep it in mind for the next experimet, after the Castrol SLX Pro LL03 504/507 oil I'm about to try for fun has run its course.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: OldBaldy
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
And as far as it being a suitable 502/504 oil...

502/504 oils need to have sulphated ash content below 1.5%. This LubroMoly oil has it listed at 2%.


ahh yes..good point. That's for the 504 spec, not 502 though, right?

That's for both 504 and 502 specs.

 

[spasm3]

where are you going to purchase this? who carries it?

 

[Quattro Pete]

Yeah, seriously. I don't think LM sells it here in the States.

 

[OldBaldy]

No idea! May not be available...in which case it's an execrise in futility and frustration only, knowing there's a really strong HD oil out there that we can't use. I'll do a quick search.