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I think that's just a tear in the pleat and it's flattened sideways.
Certified CCH11665 5mos/8400Km
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Aaah yes, see it now. Had to take a lot of dP to rip a pleat like that and blow through the eCore window. Still think there was some abnormal dP spike the bypass valve couldn't handle, and/or there was a defect in the media in that area. The eCore windows don't look overy huge. If they were, seems there would be similar failure in other engines too. And the pleat spacing at the tear area really isn't that bad - seen way wider pleats than those that never tear. Maybe the media is pretty weak and brittle - ?.
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I'm happy to take additional images of the affected area on Monday.
Try to get a good shot of the windows in the eCore center tube if you can.Here are some more images:
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It looks like the hole started closest to the seam seal & ended up twisting that media making it tear down lower that @ZeeOSix was referring to. That top connection plate side, close to the seam, looks like it got mowed down more than the other 2. The other 2 look a bit higher out of the glue plate.
It appears to me the weak link was the media ridge closest to the seam. Once that started tearing it took the neighbor 2 media ridges out with it. Thanks for sharing further pics.
Fram cartridges have always sucked
That's a pretty bad blow-out ... looks like 3 pleats got blown into the center tube window. The pleat next to the seam looks like it probably bent over first from the delta-p which set off the blow-out. Strange that the other two pleats next to the folded pleat would just blow out like that, which makes me think the media must be pretty brittle in this filter.
I'm wondering if any media broke off and went into the engine ... entirely possible looking at this failure.
I'm wondering if any media broke off and went into the engine ... entirely possible looking at this failure.
As I examined the blow out today, a tiny piece of media fell out and onto my desk, so it's possible that a small segment may have made it's way into the engine. I also noticed that the media is much stiffer than the Fram.
I'm not sure if it is in fact a Fram filter.
Part No. - COO
CCH11665 - Brazil
CH11665 - Brazil
FD11665 - USA
TG11665 - Brazil or China
FF11665 - China
FS11665 - Korea
XG11665 - Brazil or Korea
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I take it the one that blew-out also came in a white box like the one on the left?
What's the source for them in the no brand white box?
Correct. PartSource a division of Canadian Tire.
Certified is Canadian Tire’s value brand. They also have Motomaster, Motomaster OE filter lines which are progressively steps up.
Just an update, here's another Certified out of a different 3.6L that didn't suffer the same fate; looks good.
The images are of Certified CCH11665 filters.
Fully aware of that, but a couple of posts in this thread suggest that the Fram is the same and therefore “sucks”.
