Castrol Edge 0W30 has BMW LL01 again!
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Got it- thank you!
No worries in that department. Only thing you should care, technically, is BMW LL01. If oil doesn’t have it, MB229.5 is always safe approval to go with.
Thanks for the responses. I knew that the spec trumps the grade, but the SL rating had me wondering. Thanks again!
That is because API SM and later have lower limits on phosphorus in this grade. Since this is oil that is designed for different applications, phosphorus levels are higher and therefore can only fall into SL rating.
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Technically the B58 can use LL01/LL04 as well as their FE variants (ex LL01FE) all the way down to the LL17FE 0w20. I'm not familiar with the design of the PCV system of this engine but I would hedge towards LL04 rather than LL01. LL04 example - Pennzoil Euro L 5w30.
I'm using LL04 in my older TGDI BMW I6 (N55).
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Yes. But, considering pour point, it is probably closer to 50%.
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Why LL04 vs 01 in N55?
Short answer : Science
Long answer : I wanted to do a before/after using HPL. UOA's along with photos of filter media, blah blah blah. Both LL01 and LL04 are acceptable for the N55. . Being that I live in the SE US I am not worried about not getting ULSG and my OCI will be based on time (1 year) rather than miles due to working from home. I also prefer to run 5w30 due to the driving profile.
I don't know if I'll stick with it because it was a huge pain to find a shop who would let me bring my own oil and the shop I did find not only threw away the filter but they didn't take a sample so my experiment was torpedoed before it even left port. I'll probably just go back to dealer LL01FE with their $120 oil specials.
For the moment the car is benched and on a battery tender because we now have 2 cars.
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That was/is my line of thinking.
Have Pennzoil 5w-40 Euro (LL-01) in the sump of my 340i/B58 right now, but will move to Motul 5w-30 XClean+ (VW504/LL-04) in April.
Lower SAPS is probably better for the Bx8 series, for valve deposits possibly.
Great news Castrol 0w-30 is back on the horse with LL-01 though!
Are you worried about IVD? No N55 shipped with an OPF, so I don't see a lot of reason for LL04.
I guess I am not convinced that low SAPS will materially affect IVD in engines like N55.
Ll04 is used in EU since its introduction.
B38/46/48/58 are also using LL04 in EU.
B38/46/48/58 are also using LL04 in EU.
Right, but he's in the US.
And we have low-sulfur fuel now too.
I know. My point was that it is non issue to use it. We have now ULSG, it is non issue.
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