Can an oil filter make an engine noisy?

[sunfire]

Just wondering if oil filters can cause engine noise, rough running, or vibrations. Now, I'm not taking about startup noise. I'm referring to noise when the engine is warm or at operating temperature.

Some people have attributed engine noise to the oil they are running. But can an oil filter be a culprit too? While the engine is running the ADBV should be open and oil flowing through the media and back into the engine. Can some aftermarket filters alter the flow of the oil by being too restrictive or too nonrestrictive that can change how the engine sounds and runs?

Has anyone ever swap out oil filters in the middle of an OCI that cured their noisy or rough running engine?

 

[chubbs1]

It is funny you mention it but I was going to swap out filters this week. I am having the exact same issue in my Altima. Star-up is fine but it seems to be a little shaky at times, even when fully warm. Nothing too dramatic but I wanted to see if there would be a difference. I have a Honda OEM filter (A01) to put on because it is close to the specs of the Nissan filter but a little larger.

I have not heard of anyone mentioning switching out filters unless start-up noise was a problem.

 

[brandini]

Warm or at temperature means it's restrictive.

Start up noise means it doesn't have, or has a faulty anti-drainback valve.

 

[The motor guy]

I know my moms nissan has low oil pressure at idle where it runs rough at times. The oil pressure gauge doesn't have numbers but it barely reads when hot at idle. I always thought it was the non OEM oil filter they use since they just pay for a cheap quick lube type oil change. But I think it actually ended up being the ac compessor kicking on and off causing the rpm to drop slightly and causing the slight rough running. Try turning off the air conditioner and see what happens.

 

[mongo161]

How do you know if the oil filter is locked in by-pass? Would an oil filter that is loaded up with debris, or too restrictive on oil flow, cause engine noise or vibrations that you are hearing?

I know that most, if not all, oil filters have the by-pass feature that allows for continued oil circulation in the event of a blockage or loaded up filter element. But what are the tell tale signs of this occurring?

 

[sunfire]

Originally Posted By: chubbs1
It is funny you mention it but I was going to swap out filters this week. I am having the exact same issue in my Altima. Star-up is fine but it seems to be a little shaky at times, even when fully warm. Nothing too dramatic but I wanted to see if there would be a difference. I have a Honda OEM filter (A01) to put on because it is close to the specs of the Nissan filter but a little larger.

I have not heard of anyone mentioning switching out filters unless start-up noise was a problem.


What aftermarket filter are you using now? Please do let us know how the Honda OEM works out.

 

[sunfire]

Originally Posted By: mongo161
How do you know if the oil filter is locked in by-pass? Would an oil filter that is loaded up with debris, or too restrictive on oil flow, cause engine noise or vibrations that you are hearing?

I know that most, if not all, oil filters have the by-pass feature that allows for continued oil circulation in the event of a blockage or loaded up filter element. But what are the tell tale signs of this occurring?


I'm not experiencing any problems in my car. I was just wondering if anyone has ever experienced dramatic or improved reduction in engine noise by swapping out the filter in the middle of an OCI. But leaving the oil in.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

My Toyota Yaris was sensitive to oil filters - it seemd to run best with a non-ecore delco and light 30 grade oils. It surprisingly did poor with the service replacement toyota denso made in Thailand filter yzzf1/2 and replacing the OEM toyota Japan (-10003) filter fixed the t-chain noise and low power issues. Silly VVTi and low drag oil pump i guess.

 

[sunfire]

Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
My Toyota Yaris was sensitive to oil filters - it seemd to run best with a non-ecore delco and light 30 grade oils. It surprisingly did poor with the service replacement toyota denso made in Thailand filter yzzf1/2 and replacing the OEM toyota Japan (-10003) filter fixed the t-chain noise and low power issues. Silly VVTi and low drag oil pump i guess.


Very interesting... do you recall the model number of the non-ecore ACdelco? I'm just wondering what's unique about it.

 

[boxcartommie22]

absolutely!!!

 

[mongo161]

That is why I brought up the point about the filter possibly being stuck or locked in the by-pass mode. I've heard of oil filters being stuck in the by-pass mode and that is why I asked. Sometimes Oil Filters have defects or do not operate properly....so I put out the general questions to the board of what would be the tell tale signs. I've never experienced a problem like you described and I've never had a filter malfunction....so it was open to the members of the board to chime in and make suggestions. Cheers!



Originally Posted By: sunfire
Originally Posted By: mongo161
How do you know if the oil filter is locked in by-pass? Would an oil filter that is loaded up with debris, or too restrictive on oil flow, cause engine noise or vibrations that you are hearing?

I know that most, if not all, oil filters have the by-pass feature that allows for continued oil circulation in the event of a blockage or loaded up filter element. But what are the tell tale signs of this occurring?


I'm not experiencing any problems in my car. I was just wondering if anyone has ever experienced dramatic or improved reduction in engine noise by swapping out the filter in the middle of an OCI. But leaving the oil in.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Originally Posted By: sunfire
.... Very interesting... do you recall the model number of the non-ecore ACdelco? I'm just wondering what's unique about it.
It was the cross ref for a 2005 Rav4 4 cyl (engine code: 2AZFE) Nothing unique: dome bypass, nitrile ADBV, DELCO spec filter paper. The Toyota use a low drag oil pump with low internal bypass and between that and the VVTi its way too touchy, I experienced similar issues with the 2azFe in the 2005 rav I owned at the same time.

 

[MuzzleFlash40]

It can make a BIG difference. I've tried everything on the impala and the only filters that don't make it noisy on start-up are wix and puro classic.

 

[tig1]

Several years ago I tried a ST(WM) for a Ford 4.2 tryck engine. At first it was fine, but 3K into the OC I started getting an engine tick for several seconds after the engine set overnight. After a week of that I removed the ST and put a MC on and that stopped the start up tick. Never had it after that.

 

[sunfire]

Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Originally Posted By: sunfire
.... Very interesting... do you recall the model number of the non-ecore ACdelco? I'm just wondering what's unique about it.
It was the cross ref for a 2005 Rav4 4 cyl (engine code: 2AZFE) Nothing unique: dome bypass, nitrile ADBV, DELCO spec filter paper. The Toyota use a low drag oil pump with low internal bypass and between that and the VVTi its way too touchy, I experienced similar issues with the 2azFe in the 2005 rav I owned at the same time.


And the AcDelco and Toyota OEM worked best in the 2AZ-FE?

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Not toyota denso Thailand service part. Had multiple problems. You cant buy the toyota OEM JAPAN Denso at any dealer up here. They are Foam Density media not "paper". Japan Denso are Toyota P/N: 90915-10004 (for AZ) or -10003 (for NZ).