C Edge P Ultra V Synpower 5w30 Which you Choose???

[Fallguy]

Price aside between the 3 which one of these would you choose and for what technical reason(s), say on a 5K OCI basis.

Realize 5K is overkill but just looking for best engine protection between these 3 have narrowed down to.

Have looked at many UOA's MSDS and Product data sheets and still cant decide, have ideas but would like to hear others first.

Realize does not likely make much if any difference but if anyone has particular technical reasons they feel one of these to be superior would be most interesting.

 

[5sfe91]

If you're only doing a 5k OCI i'd run Synpower, because the other 2 oils would just be a huge waste with all their potential

 

[tinmanSC]

All are good choices, I use and like SynPower. Valvoline has made top shelf products for ages. Pennz Ultra may become a little hard to come by. Seems it's not really doing very well. IMO, Platinum is fantastic with little reason to go to Ultra. I don't have much of an opinion on Edge, I've never used it. I'd use SynPower or Platinum. Franky, I think 5K changes on any of them are too soon, but if you are wanting 5K, my vote would be SynPower.

 

[casperfun]

It don't matter, with everything considered equal which 5 OCI represents. Just changing the oil is good. I personally don't think it would matter at that OCI.

I had to choose between Ultra and Edge, they both great. But I chose Ultra because of all the great reviews and UOA's of Pennzoil Platinum. Gosh, the Platinum People are a die-hard bunch! They love the Platinum stuff so much and the pricing that they didnt even give Ultra a chance.

To myself, I said if platinum is kicking butt in the UOA's then Ultra must be so much better.

Both Pennzoil and Castrol have good marketing, I also think SynPower has a great reputation.

You can't go wrong with any of these three.

 

[Fallguy]

Have seen Edge has the most moly.

P Ultra has some moly but not as much as Edge

Synpower has virtually no moly but highest CST at 10.5 100c and seams to hang in grade better with use.

Among other things.

 

[garlicbreadman]

Originally Posted By: Fallguy
Have seen Edge has the most moly.

P Ultra has some moly but not as much as Edge

Synpower has virtually no moly but highest CST at 10.5 100c and seams to hang in grade better with use.

Among other things.


why does everyone think moly is necessary?
Many of the GREAT oils have zero moly.

Synpower for me, it just runs better on all my motors

 

[Fallguy]

I know moly is not the be all to end all, just a difference I noticed between the formulations.

What about boron, calcium differences between the 3, anything stand out in those regards to anyone.

 

[HTSS_TR]

5K OCI on non-severe condition ? Then any conventional would do good job of protecting your engine, even WM Supertech will do.

 

[chubbs1]

Just look at the beautiful Havoline 5w30 UOA posted today by member Sxg6. Nuff said. Totally agree with HTSS-TR WM Supertech will do, unless you are really running severe OCI's as in towing etc. Any conventional oil will be great. They are very good nowadays. If you have to choose from the said three... WHATEVER IS ON SALE! I really believe that.

 

[shpankey]

On 5w30, I'd take the Ultra... but on 10w30 I'd take the Edge. I like the add pack of Ultra better than the Edge and SynPower's at 5w30, but I like the add pack of Edge on 10w30 better than Ultra's or SynPower's at that viscosity.

 

[tinmanSC]

Originally Posted By: Fallguy
Have seen Edge has the most moly.

P Ultra has some moly but not as much as Edge

Synpower has virtually no moly but highest CST at 10.5 100c and seams to hang in grade better with use.

Among other things.

In this case, the quantity of moly is not applicable. Molybdenum is part of formations for a reason, and it's left out of for a reason too. Ashland (Valvoline) uses it very carefully, it's in MaxLife, but not in their SynPower or conventional. Ultra, it seems, doesn't need much at all. Even without it, all these oils turn in superb results.

 

[Audi Junkie]

Edge has worked well in Audi turbos, so...

 

[JDD]

Say it with me now--VAL-VO-LINE.

My technical reasons: Castrol has the worst advertising in history. My shop teacher taught me to hate Pennzoil (1980). My racer friend who goes really fast uses Valvoline.

 

[FowVay]

I'd choose Pennzoil since the 5w30 viscosity carries the Honda/Acura HTO-06 rating. The other two don't.

Second choice would be Castrol. This truly is a fantastic product by any standard.

A distant third would be Valvoline. Their ongoing 3,000 mile drain interval diatribe, false published data and confrontational attitude (whole other story) puts Ashland Chemical off of my list of companies I need to patronize.

 

[demarpaint]

Edge was my choice, I'm glad I use it now. A little costly so watch for sales.

 

[bullwinkle]

At 5K OCI you'd be wasting your money on all of them-but Synpower allegedly has the lowest TBN, Ultra is OVERPRICED, Edge isn't much better-IMHO Pennz Platinum is the clear winner (even though it's not in the contest)!!

 

[cryption]

My opinion is Valvoline as well

 

[moto94536]

I personally think castrol is better than mobil 1.

 

[Brian Barnhart]

If you are not looking to maximize fuel economy, I would choose an oil that meets VW50400, VW50700, Porsche C30, MB229.51, or MB229.5. Unfortunately, none of the 5W30s widely available in the states meet any of those specs. The closest would probably be Syntec 0W30. Others would include M1 0W40 and SynPower 5W40 HST (if you can find it). If you don’t mind ordering it, Amsoil 5W30 AEL would possibly be another good choice.

If you want an energy conserving 5W30, I would look at ones that meet ACEA A5/B5-04 and HTS-06. From what I can gather, that would include Pennzoil Platinum and M1 (not including EP or HM).

If you insist on choosing among the three you listed, I would go with PU simply because it meets HTS-06 and the others apparently don’t.