Bypass Valve Location

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In one of the threads in this forum someone made a negative comment about a bypass valve being located at the closed end of the filter. Does it really matter? I have some highly regarded filters in my "collection" (i.e. Pure 1 and Fleetguard) whose version of my Motorcraft FL400A/S have the valve at the top of the filter instead of right after the threaded outlet on the filter. All the others: Mobil 1, Motorcraft, Bosch, Castrol have the valve near the outlet hole. Need your advice.

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The primary “drawback” of bypass valves located at the “closed” end of the filter involves the oil flow path. Oil “bypassing” a filter with the bypass valve on the “closed” end of the filter must pass along the entire length of the filter media (which likely contains trapped dirt) before reaching the bypass valve. As the oil passes along the “dirty” element, it’s possible for some of the dirt to be swept into the oil passing by, and through the bypass valve and into the oil passages.

If the bypass valve is located at the “open” end of the filter, bypassing oil goes directly from inlet to outlet and doesn’t pass over the “dirty” filter media. How much of an advantage this may be is probably debatable. If the media is clean, or effectively traps and holds any dirt, oil passing by will not pick up any dirt.

There is nothing wrong with using the "closed end bypass" filters you already have. If you are concerned with, or want to minimize the effects of bypass valve location, you might consider using the filters with bypass valves on the "closed" end during times of the year when bypassing is less likely (during the warm months when the oil is generally warm and can pass more easily through the media).
 
Brian,

Incredibly helpful post and I plan to employ your suggestion for minimizing the impact of using the filters with the bypass valve at the closed end.

Many thanks...

Paul
 
How much of an advantage this may be is probably debatable.

Not debatable for Ford. They specifically address the issue in their manuals, and state outright that filters used on Ford engines should have the bypass located at the filter outlet, for the very reason mentioned.
 
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Originally posted by YZF150:
How much of an advantage this may be is probably debatable.

Not debatable for Ford. They specifically address the issue in their manuals, and state outright that filters used on Ford engines should have the bypass located at the filter outlet, for the very reason mentioned.


Since Ford is so concerned with this, I wonder why they don't just put the bypass valve in the block, like GM does.
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Great observation about GM. I'd hazard a guess that Ford doesn't do it now because it would mean they'd have to redesign their engines and retool their manufacturing process in the engine plant. Probably cheaper to let the filter vendor do it now.

Looks like another good reason to use a filter with the specified bypass valve on a Ford vehicle.

[ August 05, 2003, 06:37 AM: Message edited by: Roger ]
 
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Not debatable for Ford. They specifically address the issue in their manuals, and state outright that filters used on Ford engines should have the bypass located at the filter outlet, for the very reason mentioned.

I can find no such reference in my Ford owner's manual. Where is Ford's recommendation on oil filter bypass valve location stated/located? Service manual perhaps? If it's really that important to Ford, it should be in the owner's manual. Obviously, the bypass valves located in the "front" are not "required" by Ford, as evidenced by the many filters on the market that meet the manufacturer's requirements for replacement oil filters, and have the bypass on the "closed" end.

As far as placement of the bypass in the block, Ford has introduced several new engines recently and could have implemented internal bypass valves if they wished. For example, their current line of V8 gas engines was completely redesigned about 10 years ago.
 
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Originally posted by Brian Barnhart:

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Not debatable for Ford. They specifically address the issue in their manuals, and state outright that filters used on Ford engines should have the bypass located at the filter outlet, for the very reason mentioned.

I can find no such reference in my Ford owner's manual. Where is Ford's recommendation on oil filter bypass valve location stated/located? Service manual perhaps? If it's really that important to Ford, it should be in the owner's manual. Obviously, the bypass valves located in the "front" are not "required" by Ford, as evidenced by the many filters on the market that meet the manufacturer's requirements for replacement oil filters, and have the bypass on the "closed" end.


Brian/YZF150 et al,

Another point of interest regarding YZF150's comment: on the Fleetguard Website (Fleetguard is one of the filters that has the bypass at the closed end) when you do a cross reference to the FL400A/S, included in the specs for the Fleetguard equivalent is the following: FORD E1FZ6731A. This is not the part number that is on the Motocraft filter that I have so I assumed this was a Ford spec for the filter and that the Fleetguard met it.
 
I've not seen a Ford recommendation about the bypass. They do say this about the ADV in my Escape manual: "If a replacement oil filter is used that does not meet Ford material and design specifications, start-up engine noises or knock may be experienced. It is recommended you use the appropriate Motorcraft oil filter (or another brand meeting Ford specifications) for your engine application."

It may be that no bypass valve warning is in the manuals because it is built in the "Ford way" on all Motorcraft filters. Non-Motorcraft cross reference brands do not necessarily have the bypass valve in the Ford specified location. Example, the Wix 51372 does not even though it fits an FL-820S. Maybe because the 51372 also fits other vehicles besides Ford??? Who knows!
 
Just so there is no mis-understanding, the filters for the latest ford 2L engines (V-Tech) in the Focus calls for a filter that actually has a "flow limiter in the discharge" The bypass is still at the closed end of the filter. The purpose of the flow limiter is to limit differential pressure across the filter when the bypass opens and therefore allows it to seat quicker.
 
One of the arguments not mentioned is it depends on the position of the filter. If it is hanging vetically, you want the valve in the open end (up) so it doesn't pick up settled crud. If it is vertical with the open end down, you want the bypass valve on the closed end because the settlement is at the open end. If it is on it's side, it doesn't matter.
 
Widman - You make a good point about orientation but I gotta take exception to one statement "If its on its side it doesn't matter". That may be the worst case since the sludge on the side will have oil washing over it on its way down to the bypass valve and there is not a lot of clearance between the sides of the element and the case. The bottom appears to have more room and possible less forced flow across it.
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