The i3 looks more like a Kia to me
BMW future M EV models will be fully electric in 2027
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A lot of miles in a few years is not the same. Hot cold cycles kill electronics more than ICE vehicles - surface mount joints crack, capacitors crack, insulation in coils degrades. Constant use is the ideal case.
Neither is youtube real data. I could post a youtube video of my 420K mile, 18 year old Xterra. I could put a big caption WOW!!!. doesn't mean all Xterra's go that long.
EV's have been around a while and all the registration data is out there - why are the EV advocates not telling us how many EV's by year are still on the road. The Average vehicle is now 14 years - mainly ICE. What is the life of these new EV's going to be?
It will be interesting to see how people like the ICE and EV version of the BMW i3. Which will have more problems/overall maintenance costs etc. How much power will the ICE produce at 100k miles vs the EV? Driver preference etc.
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BMW engineers were in the works to make an M version of the I8. BMW execs were so worried that it would outperform the M3 they axed it.
The weird thing is that BMW keeps swinging between "The manual transmission is dead" and "we'll keep making them if customers buy them." They said with ev's taking over no more manuals yet 50 percent of M2 and 25 percent of M3 and M4's are purchased with a manual transmission.
Makes sense to me that the bulk of luxury cars shift to mostly EV. I have a Cadillac LYRIQ and a BMW X3. The X3 is paid-for and mostly sits. On the rare occasion I drive it it’s shocking how bad the 2.0T / ZF 8-speed combo is. Weak, rough, slow, and I’ve still never driven an automatic transmissionmission that I didn’t hate - even this ZF 8-speed. The LYRIQ is so quiet, so smooth, so torquey - everything a luxury drivetrain should be.
Sure, maybe keep M2/M3 ICE with a manual transmission option, but all the bigger stuff with automatics and hybrid - just go EV - it’s much better. The M5 is so crazy heavy now, a 1,000 HP / 350 mile EV M5 probably isn’t any heavier
Sure, maybe keep M2/M3 ICE with a manual transmission option, but all the bigger stuff with automatics and hybrid - just go EV - it’s much better. The M5 is so crazy heavy now, a 1,000 HP / 350 mile EV M5 probably isn’t any heavier
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What a trash decision.
Yogi Berra taught us, "It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." and "The future ain't what it used to be."
It’s a marketing decision. BMW tries to figure out if it’s more beneficial to the company to Sell cars with a manual transmission or just automatics. The EPA requires testing of all engine - transmission combinations.
I'm interested in seeing how these compare and what people end up preferring. This is a good baseline benchmark comparison between two higher performance type sedans with two completely different systems.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...bmw-m3-ev-be-priced-same-ballpark-petrol-twin
The forthcoming electric BMW M3 due in 2027 and the next-generation petrol M3 will be “twins” that will be “in the same ballpark” in terms of price.
Asked how she will win over existing BMW M owners who might be sceptical about electric performance cars to make the switch, Neubauer said: “We need to get you into the cars.”
The firm is planning a series of drive tours to allow M owners to sample the EV, and Neubauer added: “Obviously we will not convince 100% out of the petrolhead target group to buy an all electric BMW M3. But out of 100 people that try it, we will be able to convince some. And for everybody else, we will still provide combustion engines.”
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...bmw-m3-ev-be-priced-same-ballpark-petrol-twin
The forthcoming electric BMW M3 due in 2027 and the next-generation petrol M3 will be “twins” that will be “in the same ballpark” in terms of price.
Asked how she will win over existing BMW M owners who might be sceptical about electric performance cars to make the switch, Neubauer said: “We need to get you into the cars.”
The firm is planning a series of drive tours to allow M owners to sample the EV, and Neubauer added: “Obviously we will not convince 100% out of the petrolhead target group to buy an all electric BMW M3. But out of 100 people that try it, we will be able to convince some. And for everybody else, we will still provide combustion engines.”
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