What is “urban” winter?you live in florida and use winter tires? just asking politely. the firestone winterforce 2 are adequate winter tires. perfect for floridanot for northern quebec. they are good for urban winter.
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They do have DNA, but it is generally made as cheaper option, meaning snow will be fine, but people do complain about wet performance, noise. Not sure about ice. Here most people in the mountains run X-ICE, Blizzak and lately you see VC7 a lot. Nokian in some cases, but not a lot.
Whenever I go to ski and park vehicle I pay attention what people drive on. Interesting stuff to see.
winter conditions in a large city that is well plowed.
if you check the list of tires i have posted, all the best winter tires on the north american market are there. as a matter of fact many of these tires are also the leaders in the european market. like the michelin x-ice snow,the continental vikincontact 7, the nokian hakka r5 et hakka 10 and the michelin x-ice north 4. so the best european tires you say are better than everything, well guess what, we have them in north america too.
2022/23 Tyre Reviews Studless Winter Tyre Test - Tyre reviews and ratings
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No they are not leaders.if you check the list of tires i have posted, all the best winter tires on the north american market are there. as a matter of fact many of these tires are also the leaders in the european market. like the michelin x-ice snow,the continental vikincontact 7, the nokian hakka r5 et hakka 10 and the michelin x-ice north 4. so the best european tires you say are better than everything, well guess what, we have them in north america too.
2022/23 Tyre Reviews Studless Winter Tyre Test - Tyre reviews and ratings
Snow tyres, studless friction tyres, extreme winter tyres, nordic winter tyres. This category of tyre goes by many names, and they have one design goal, to be the very best on snow and ice for harsh ...
If you want to know which are leader, familiarize yourself with ADAC.
Lol. Yes, bcs. what would we know about “rural” winters in the Rockies.
By the way, 95% of accidents happen 2 miles from home.
no. i d'ont live in germany, nor europe, nor any people in north america. what matters to me are tests done in the harsh conditions where i live. and the APA is just that. europe is europe and north america is just that: north america.
APA's 2021-2022 ratings of winter tires for compact SUVs and cars, and intermediate sedans - Automobile Protection Association
Testing was conducted by Michel Poirier-Defoy and Jean-François Guay in the Laurentian and Outaouais regions outside Montreal, Quebec. A Nissan Rogue and Honda CR-V were used as test vehicles. The test team has conducted about 30 tire tests cumulatively since … Read more
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Have you seen some tread life data for winter tires? Love to see it if yes.
I realize that Michelin is the only company that offers a tread wear warranty on their winter tires. But that does not mean that theirs last any longer than any of the other leading winter tires. I think all the leading winter tires get about the same tread life.
And better is very relative. If you have studied the data on winter tires reviews, you will see that the leading tires all have their plus and minus. One may be top at grip in deep snow, but not perform as well as another at grip on ice. And a third may outperform both the other leaders at dry grip.
It is also interesting to read different reviews, and notice that 5 different review sources may have, for the most part, the same tires rated at the top, but each review will show them in a different order. For one, the X-Ice Snow may be #1. Another may rate the Hakka 10 #1.
For me, it is kind of entertaining when someone here critiques another for buying one of the top tier winter tires. Everyone has to pick the characteristics that they feel are most important for their driving environment and style. I say pick one of the top tier winter tires based upon your needs and budget. And don't worry about the naysayers. An yes, the WS90 does make the top tier in most reviews. Great choice.
But, OP doesn’t live there. So, not relevant.no. i d'ont live in germany, nor europe, nor any people in north america. what matters to me are tests done in the harsh conditions where i live. and the APA is just that. europe is europe and north america is just that: north america.
APA's 2021-2022 ratings of winter tires for compact SUVs and cars, and intermediate sedans - Automobile Protection Association
Testing was conducted by Michel Poirier-Defoy and Jean-François Guay in the Laurentian and Outaouais regions outside Montreal, Quebec. A Nissan Rogue and Honda CR-V were used as test vehicles. The test team has conducted about 30 tire tests cumulatively since … Read more
Actually, X-ICE i had wore out much slower. X-ICE2 I had on X5 and Sienna. They wore out slower than DM-V2 I had, and generally were better tire overall.
I live in Virginia Beach and just bought winter tires. Blizzak WS-90 in fact.you live in florida and use winter tires? just asking politely. the firestone winterforce 2 are adequate winter tires. perfect for florida
Did you assume that I was born here, lived here my whole life, and never leave the state?
Because you just assumed that with another poster here.
In fact, the car will be kept in Colorado, so the tires make sense.
Since I have family in Utah and Vermont, and have lived in Vermont, Colorado and Winnipeg, I do have more winter experience than my current address might suggest.
i assumed nothing about him. and i assumed nothing about you either, i just asked a question politely. what i made is a deduction. not an assumption.
With a laugh emoji embedded, your “deduction” came off as snarky. You literally laughed at the guy using winter tires in Florida and gave a condescending response.
I’m shopping for winter tires as well. I had read somewhere that the Blizzak WS90 only lasts a couple of seasons.
Michelin would disagree with you.
MICHELIN INTRODUCES NEW X-ICE SNOW WINTER TIRE :: Michelin North America, Inc.
New-generation X-Ice tire provides improved snow and ice performance, winter after winter Michelin introduced the MICHELIN® X-Ice® SNOW tire ― the
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Some of us have lived all over the country and do travel often.
Kinda' what I figured...
Not for studded tires or the WS90 and its peers, but for "central European" winter tires that data is published by German sources such as
ADAC and Auto Bild magazine. There may be other sources in Germany and elsewhere.
2022 Auto Bild Winter Tyre Test - Tyre reviews and ratings
Following on from the fifty six winter tyre braking shootout, these are the top twenty winter tyres in the full Auto Bild Full Winter Tyre Test! As with the Auto Bild All Season tyre ...
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Winterreifen Test 2023: Alle Reifengrößen im Überblick | ADAC
Im ADAC Winterreifen Test werden die besten Reifen der verschiedenen Reifengrößen ermittelt. Welche Reifen haben sicheren Grip, welche sparen am meisten Sprit?
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In the 2022 Auto Bild test, the "projected tire life" for the Michelin Alpin 6 is 40,933Km, and for the Blizzak LM005 is 31,409Km. This does not support the idea that "all the leading winter tires get about the same tread life".
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I have news for you. Alps are in France, Italy, Austria, Lichtenstein (?), Slovenia (?), Germany and Switzerland.mmm no. if you go in the mountains with extreme snow conditions, you want deep threads and studs. been there, done that. and most european winter tires are not that. most of them are like the hakka r5. wich are excellent winter tires. just not extreme winter tires. that is why the hakka 10 exist. it is the most popular winter tire in quebec canada. the michelin north 4 is also an extreme winter tire. and the alps are not that extreme. the road are extremely well plowed. it is not even mandatory to have winter tires in the alps, while it is mandatory in quebec.
Traveling by car in Switzerland during winter: the must-knows
Driving in Switzerland during winter: the rules about tires, profile depth and snow chains, plus tips for a safe winter journey.www.myswissalps.com
Each has a different law. Winter tires are a must at least in Germany.
Driving Abroad in Winter | RAC Drive | RAC Drive
If you are driving abroad this winter to one of Europe’s popular winter destinations, it pays to understand both the safety and legal issues.
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