Blending 0W-20 & 5W-20 of the same oil?

[Oregoonian]

Originally Posted By: TheKracken
You could always run 0w20 for both. But it seems around these forums that people usually agree that as long as you are mixing between the same brand it is okay.

+1.....IMO..... using the 0w20 in both vehicles would be he way to go. 0w20 can easily be substituted for 5w20, and is possibly a superior oil, with improved base oil.

 

[asleepz]

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: asleepz
Next oil change in my Accord is somewhere along the lines of:

.75qts of PP5-20
.75qts of PP5-30
2qts of MC15-40
1qt of Maxlife 10-30

You'll generally be alright if you choose to blend mix .


Fixed it so that your understanding better reflects the reality.

It's not "blending"...that what the guys who put the oil INTO your bottles did...they understand the process, and specifically "blend" the oil...you are mixing, nothing more, nothing less, and have absolutely nothing certain in the outcome, except the new BITOG performance standard of "nothing will blow up" (and that's probably).


blend
blend/
verb
1.
mix (a substance) with another substance so that they combine together as a mass.


Whatever allows you to sleep at night.

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: asleepz

blend
blend/
verb
1.
mix (a substance) with another substance so that they combine together as a mass.


Whatever allows you to sleep at night.


Per the API (that's the licencing body for engine oils)...
http://globalindustrialsolutions.net/base-oil-definition.php
Quote:
Lubricating oil is produced by "Blenders and Compounders" who combine base oil with 1% to 20% application-specific chemical additives, which enhance the performance of the base oil. The "compounded" Lubricating oil is then packaged and sold to end users. (The table below lists some of the various types of additives used and their functions.)


i.e. chucking a bunch of already formulated oils for either imagined superiority, or due to convenience is NOT beign a blender, as most mixers claim to be.

 

[asleepz]

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: asleepz

blend
blend/
verb
1.
mix (a substance) with another substance so that they combine together as a mass.


Whatever allows you to sleep at night.


Per the API (that's the licencing body for engine oils)...
http://globalindustrialsolutions.net/base-oil-definition.php
Quote:
Lubricating oil is produced by "Blenders and Compounders" who combine base oil with 1% to 20% application-specific chemical additives, which enhance the performance of the base oil. The "compounded" Lubricating oil is then packaged and sold to end users. (The table below lists some of the various types of additives used and their functions.)


i.e. chucking a bunch of already formulated oils for either imagined superiority, or due to convenience is NOT beign a blender, as most mixers claim to be.


Nobody is claiming to be Ashland or SOPUS here. He's basically asking if he can "top off" his oil like millions of people do everyday.

Thanks for explaining who the API is. Isn't it also true anything with the API starburst must be able to homogenously mix with their counterparts? That's the problem with forums that have stood the test of time. Most "OG" folks turn into condescending [censored]. Do like the Canadians say and go _____ your hat.

 

[shurguywutt]

I'm pretty new here but it does seem like there is a theme of "condescending attitude" on this forum. Whatever happened to just telling what you do and why? Everything else is just noise.

I top off with whatever I have if it is really low. Otherwise I run to the store and pick up a qt. How much more complicated can it be?

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: asleepz
Nobody is claiming to be Ashland or SOPUS here. He's basically asking if he can "top off" his oil like millions of people do everyday.

Here, we're talking about oil, and it's appropriate to use the correct terminology. Any real formulator on the site will say the same thing. Of course, we're not always talking about topping up here. Some people want to mix a bunch of stuff in hopes of coming up with something out of the bottle. Some are simply topping up. Some are using leftovers. Some want to tailor a grade. None of those are the same thing, and all carry different concerns.

 

[asleepz]

Totally understand what you're saying, but to hijack a thread and call me out for using a synonym is outrageous and why my post count is what it is after 5 years of becoming a member.

 

[Garak]

We do have people, though, that think they're doing something important by blending. Now, there are certain, well reasoned blends with a specific goal in mind, and some cases where oil companies encourage mixing, but those are another matter altogether. And, there has been a lot of talk lately how mixing can never under any circumstances hurt anything, so we might get a bit touchy about that.

 

[asleepz]

Yeah I'm not going to go there because it goes well past my experience level to be MIXING for any other reason than to get rid of stray quarts

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: Garak
We do have people, though, that think they're doing something important by blending. Now, there are certain, well reasoned blends with a specific goal in mind, and some cases where oil companies encourage mixing, but those are another matter altogether. And, there has been a lot of talk lately how mixing can never under any circumstances hurt anything, so we might get a bit touchy about that.

Just for viscosity though, not for anything else. Once you start mixing/blending/concocting you do lose any assurance of meeting specifications that the original oils may individually meet.

 

[Yah-Tah-Hey]

WHY ?

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Just for viscosity though, not for anything else. Once you start mixing/blending/concocting you do lose any assurance of meeting specifications that the original oils may individually meet.

Yes, those mixes were the type I was getting at. Red Line encourages mixing. M1 racing line fits that as well. Heck, even Caterham's blend is designed to tailor operational viscosity, with no concern of individual specs or winter use (he uses it for short drains). As you know here, personally, I hate mixing within a passion, even within the same brand and viscosity with different lot numbers.

asleepz: I'm so paranoid, I use my stray quarts for OPE. They must suffer horribly from my mixes, though.

 

[PeterPolyol]

Same 'innocent' questions, same battery of litigious responses. What a BITOG classic

 

[asleepz]

Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Just for viscosity though, not for anything else. Once you start mixing/blending/concocting you do lose any assurance of meeting specifications that the original oils may individually meet.

Yes, those mixes were the type I was getting at. Red Line encourages mixing. M1 racing line fits that as well. Heck, even Caterham's blend is designed to tailor operational viscosity, with no concern of individual specs or winter use (he uses it for short drains). As you know here, personally, I hate mixing within a passion, even within the same brand and viscosity with different lot numbers.

asleepz: I'm so paranoid, I use my stray quarts for OPE. They must suffer horribly from my mixes, though.

My Accord eats anything I throw at it. Old gas, 2 stroke mix, diesel, obviously contaminated fuels, motor oils. Never skips a beat. She's well taken care of but has an odd diet.

 

[Shannow]

Awesome...nothing blew up, that's something to be proud of.

If you want to get all picky on what should and shouldn't be in threads, OP was asking about mixing on two cars under warranty...

My first post was addressing that...yours, if we adopt your POV was nothing to do with OP's dilema...we've got a saying about boots down here, that can go with your hat.

 

[asleepz]

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Awesome...nothing blew up, that's something to be proud of.

If you want to get all picky on what should and shouldn't be in threads, OP was asking about mixing on two cars under warranty...

My first post was addressing that...yours, if we adopt your POV was nothing to do with OP's dilema...we've got a saying about boots down here, that can go with your hat.


Show me one case where oil viscosity was tested to see if the correct oil was in the sump due to engine failure in a consumer environment. With your inflated post count I honestly expected a more witty response other than "yeah! Yeah! Well! __________"


And to add to the request assuming you can find a situation where the viscosity was checked, show your work and show where it was denied due to the oil lab results.

 

[userfriendly]

That would be seen as "Mr SAE Paper cherry picking & posting other people's work".

 

[asleepz]

Well the fact of the matter is oil related warranty claims on those specific issues are not even measurable. No oil, oil loss due to failure, etc... are what's seen in the real world.

Now the hundreds of Caterpillar diesels we run in a marine environment. Different story. They pay more attention to what's going on.

 

[Shannow]

Your are right, nothing nearly ever blows up...

but in light of the OP's questions, is

Originally Posted By: asleepz

.75qts of PP5-20
.75qts of PP5-30
2qts of MC15-40
1qt of Maxlife 10-30


Even remotely applicable to a vehicle under warranty, or in fact the topic of mixing two oils of the same brand ?

 

[asleepz]

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Your are right, nothing nearly ever blows up...

but in light of the OP's questions, is

Originally Posted By: asleepz

.75qts of PP5-20
.75qts of PP5-30
2qts of MC15-40
1qt of Maxlife 10-30


Even remotely applicable to a vehicle under warranty, or in fact the topic of mixing two oils of the same brand ?


Sure it is. Shows that it's not rocket science on the end user.

Especially when his two oil's viscosities are/nearly the same everywhere in the USA right now.

How long do you want to keep doing this?