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These were 2004 and 2005 motors. All three were Elantra's.
Maybe the motors are OK but the newer timing belts are total garbage.
1978 malibu classic - flooded and burned oil. spun a rod bearing and kept going for another 20K
1983 Honda Civic - used to take us somewhere and then leave us there by not starting for hours, has seen canadian tire many times. I even remember some good samaritan trying to help us start it with a brick (??) he was poounding on some part of it lol Once the transaxle engaged in R while it was warming up at fast idle and it reversed across the street into the NEIGHBOURS HOUSE!!!! that was the end of it
1983 Honda Civic - used to take us somewhere and then leave us there by not starting for hours, has seen canadian tire many times. I even remember some good samaritan trying to help us start it with a brick (??) he was poounding on some part of it lol Once the transaxle engaged in R while it was warming up at fast idle and it reversed across the street into the NEIGHBOURS HOUSE!!!! that was the end of it
The 351W was a completely different engine from the 351C and 351M. The 351W was based on the Ford small block that came out in 1962 as a 221. This block family also produced the 255, 260, 289, 302 and 351. The 351W is unique compared to the other engine blocks though. To achieve 351 ci, Ford had to make the 351W block 1.5" taller than a 302 block. It also used beefier bottom end parts, but shared the same bell housing pattern as the other small blocks.
Like the 351C and 351M, the 351W had a 4.00" bore and a 3.5" stroke. However, the 351W was a completely unrelated engine to the other two 351's. The 351W first came out in 1969, one year before the 351C, and was last produced in 1996.
Happy Hyundai,
If you look at the list of cars I have owned previously and current, you will see I have owned US and German and few Japanese, I am not biased, I currently feel that few and not all Japanese manufacturers make excellent cars and others are catching up, my take is it doesn't look good to peddle your own and that too in a forum, Hyundai is Korean product and you talk about it as being the best, and talking about insults, you take the cake, every post you made in the past you had to mention my Indian background, at least I am not shameful to wave my own flag and tell people to buy a Tata Indigo or Mahindra Scorpio unlike you where you will tell everyone that Hyundai is the best. As for being a hypocrite, I will defend a Corvette, a G Wagen, a Unimog in the same breath I will defend a Land Cruiser or a Nissan Patrol or Accord or Camry or Corolla, and if you can see their origin, none of them are from India unlike your Hyundai which is Korean, so quite predictable isn't it, Korean waving flag for Korean product. Spare me the bull.
If you look at the list of cars I have owned previously and current, you will see I have owned US and German and few Japanese, I am not biased, I currently feel that few and not all Japanese manufacturers make excellent cars and others are catching up, my take is it doesn't look good to peddle your own and that too in a forum, Hyundai is Korean product and you talk about it as being the best, and talking about insults, you take the cake, every post you made in the past you had to mention my Indian background, at least I am not shameful to wave my own flag and tell people to buy a Tata Indigo or Mahindra Scorpio unlike you where you will tell everyone that Hyundai is the best. As for being a hypocrite, I will defend a Corvette, a G Wagen, a Unimog in the same breath I will defend a Land Cruiser or a Nissan Patrol or Accord or Camry or Corolla, and if you can see their origin, none of them are from India unlike your Hyundai which is Korean, so quite predictable isn't it, Korean waving flag for Korean product. Spare me the bull.
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Gurkha,
Though our experience of Camry cars not holding up in severe island service, toyota trucks lasting less robustly than fords, and great experience with MB diesels in the USA may differ with youre, I must say that you are indeed extremely fair in your discussion.
That said, HH, it is apparent that you are very pro-american and very patriotic. Thanks, we need more people like you regardless of ethnicity or whatnot. I think youve gottern good deals and had good deals on hyundai cars, and great for you. Lots of folks have had good success with a lot of different cars, and youre doing just fine explaining your success, just liek I do with my MB and Saab.
Cheers to all!
JMH
Though our experience of Camry cars not holding up in severe island service, toyota trucks lasting less robustly than fords, and great experience with MB diesels in the USA may differ with youre, I must say that you are indeed extremely fair in your discussion.
That said, HH, it is apparent that you are very pro-american and very patriotic. Thanks, we need more people like you regardless of ethnicity or whatnot. I think youve gottern good deals and had good deals on hyundai cars, and great for you. Lots of folks have had good success with a lot of different cars, and youre doing just fine explaining your success, just liek I do with my MB and Saab.
Cheers to all!
JMH
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"On another note anyone have an opinion of the Corvair motor? It was my first car. Been so long I don't remember if it gave me any grief".
The Corvair long block itself was quite durable and precisely built. It had a very substantial air cooling system and was built for hot US climates. Even the A/C system pulled air through the condensor and then into the engine (there weren't a lot of A/C cars back then, but the system worked great and the engine handled it well - I have one). Keeping the engine sealed was literally impossible with 60s sealing technology, lots were run out of oil or run on used oil back then, and still gave great service (I'm talking the long block only). Keeping a V-belt on engine with 60s technology could be a challenge too. Ultimately, the entire package of the car (heater w/oil from leaking engine, manual shifter/clutch problems, swing axle suspension 60-64, high price for it's class-what ever that was, poor profit margins-GM lost money on every 65-69) doomed the car. A 6 cylinder Dodge Dart, Ford Falcon, or Chevy Nova was an all around more economical, reliable, durable, and safer (some aspects only) car.
The Corvair long block itself was quite durable and precisely built. It had a very substantial air cooling system and was built for hot US climates. Even the A/C system pulled air through the condensor and then into the engine (there weren't a lot of A/C cars back then, but the system worked great and the engine handled it well - I have one). Keeping the engine sealed was literally impossible with 60s sealing technology, lots were run out of oil or run on used oil back then, and still gave great service (I'm talking the long block only). Keeping a V-belt on engine with 60s technology could be a challenge too. Ultimately, the entire package of the car (heater w/oil from leaking engine, manual shifter/clutch problems, swing axle suspension 60-64, high price for it's class-what ever that was, poor profit margins-GM lost money on every 65-69) doomed the car. A 6 cylinder Dodge Dart, Ford Falcon, or Chevy Nova was an all around more economical, reliable, durable, and safer (some aspects only) car.
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Mitsubishi 2.6 turbo awful pos in a Starion...better suited for a bulldozer or grader.
I walk into the shop on a monday, in a fairly good mood. I found a note from one of my weekend guys to the effect, "This Honda Civic pulled in and it was running bad, real rich. I quoted the customer XXXX for a carb overhaul and he said OK. I took the carb off, stripped it and put it in the carb dip, the kit will be in Monday. Later!"
So I go out to find a Keihin 3bbl torn down, every little piece, every air bleed jet and every metering jet scattered in the basket, unlabeled. Bad Monday.
I fought with that carb for a week to get it right. The real pisser was the only problem was a cracked plastic float that let the fuel level get too high. It should have been a simple 30 minute job instead of a weeklong ordeal.
As far as the 351M and the 400, We always had massive overheating problems with them in S TX, the 400 especially. It was pretty much a given the EGR plates under the carb would get eaten up and blow out as well. True, all of those early emission engines were a PITA to maintain.
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I'm not ashamed in being a Korean-American. I am an American, I'm on my 6th year serving my country and I prefer to wave the American flag. DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?
You're a stereotypical idiot. I will enjoy driving my Korean car, just because I'm Korean-American.
Of course I say Hyundai is the best. Hyundai's are my hobby, Aren't Japanese products your hobby? Except that we're different. You destroy the image of Korean products just to do it. That's your style, not mine. I like a couple of things Japanese.
go ahead and wave your Indian flag, and I'll wave my American flag.
I have to say that is the first person I've ever heard of having a Hyundai hobby and promoting them as the best.
Oldswagon, thanks for clearing that up about the 4-6-8 engines. In one of my Saturn/GM training courses I was told that the 4-6-8 was left in production an extra year in fleet vehicles to prove that the technology could work.
And now i know why the 400 and 351M's that different have problems way back then, seemed to run forever.
And now i know why the 400 and 351M's that different have problems way back then, seemed to run forever.
I haven't had a bad engine. The worst engine (and car) I ever dealt with was my father's '74 Datsun B210.
'77 Dodge Royal Monaco with 440 lean burn engine
in shop most of time for engine problems...finally burned up...cats melts off...exhaust manifolds holed
'71 Chev Vega...the worst engine ever produced by Detroit....not to be confused with the Cosworth
'75 Pinto....would leave it along freeway when it broke down hoping someone would rearend it exploding the gas tank so i could collect insurance and buy something decent
no wonder we lost the auto industry war with the Japanese
in shop most of time for engine problems...finally burned up...cats melts off...exhaust manifolds holed
'71 Chev Vega...the worst engine ever produced by Detroit....not to be confused with the Cosworth
'75 Pinto....would leave it along freeway when it broke down hoping someone would rearend it exploding the gas tank so i could collect insurance and buy something decent
no wonder we lost the auto industry war with the Japanese
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