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Which was the last American car to use splash lubrication and babbitt bearings? 1952 Chevy is the latest that I'm aware of. Does GM get the engine prize again?
 
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318 with the "electronic spark control" box-on-the-air-cleaner --'79 Diplomat. I think it was more of an issue with the "computer" than the engine though. That car gave me all kinds of surprises at inopportune moments.




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My worst was a 2.6 Mitsubishi I bought new in 86. Needed a valve job @ 35K. Rings were so bad I had to pour oil in the carb to get it to start. Crank broke @ 45K.
 
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Suzuki Vitara 2.0L Engine. I don't even want to talk about it.




I have a customer with 400K on hers. Never had much go wrong. 1 new water pump and 3-4 radiators. She follows oversize trucks for a living and the rads get holes knocked in them from rocks.

Oh wait! She just had the trans rebuilt but it made 395K.
 
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94 Ford Probe 2.0. The thing was only running on maybe 2 cyls when I traded it on my Honda. I had all sorts of electrical issues. At one point, when the starter was going out, I got shocked every time I touched the sheetmetal. It did handle well, but man, that was an awful car/engine.



I think this was also the Mazda 626 if I'm correct. My father-in-law had one. What a #@$%! festival that was. He passed it down when my wife graduated college. We bought my current 2001 Civic about 2 months later.
 
I've been lucky; I haven't had any direct experience with bad engines, including a couple types that have been mentioned. My girlfriend's 2.0L in her '93 MX-6 is still running strong at 125K miles. My Iron Duke 2.5L had good torque and gave me no problems from 120K miles, when I bought it, to 200K miles, when it died in an accident.
 
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Suzuki Vitara 2.0L Engine. I don't even want to talk about it.




I have a customer with 400K on hers. Never had much go wrong. 1 new water pump and 3-4 radiators. She follows oversize trucks for a living and the rads get holes knocked in them from rocks.

Oh wait! She just had the trans rebuilt but it made 395K.




Boy, she's lucky. I had bad everything.. problematic engine, transfer case, transmission, seals.. you name it.
 
2.5L Iron duke in a 88 S15. Never could get it to run right. Sold it with 150k and the guy is still driving it after 5 years.. must of been my imagination.
 
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What is the biggest POS engine you've ever had?

I'll go first...without question, the old 1.6L 4-cylinder on an '82 Ford Escort. Bought it used with 65k on it (I didn't know any better at the time), it had zero power, then went through three cracked heads before it got to 87K miles. Finally ended up selling the pile of #@$%! for scrap. And I was a poor, struggling young man at the time and could least afford it then.

Funny thing is, other than that, I've always had great luck with Fords and am a "Ford guy" when it comes to the domestics.




Lou, in the Ford L/M where I worked at back in 1990, we had an '85 Escort come in for "running rough" condition. The tech pulled the head and there was NO piston nor rod ANYWHERE. They melted. The crankshaft had melted spots in the missing cylinder. He took the oil pan off, found just a few shavings of metal...and you could see clean through to the floor. Dunno what ever happened to that repair, but we were all amazed that the thing even RAN with only 3 pistons.




Good lord! That sounds like how my car ran...if it had 50 hp, I'd eat your hat.
 
I had a 1980 Capri RS, which was pretty much a mustang with a different grill and hatch. The 2.3 liter turbo was a piece of bovine excrement. Blown rings, hosed turbo, burned a quart of oil per day.
 
Noticeably absent are any of the old AMC masterpieces (excluding Jeep)...anyone have any good stories about them...hmmmm?
 
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Lou, in the Ford L/M where I worked at back in 1990, we had an '85 Escort come in for "running rough" condition. The tech pulled the head and there was NO piston nor rod ANYWHERE. They melted. The crankshaft had melted spots in the missing cylinder. He took the oil pan off, found just a few shavings of metal...and you could see clean through to the floor. Dunno what ever happened to that repair, but we were all amazed that the thing even RAN with only 3 pistons.




Probably came from the factory like that.
 
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318 with the "electronic spark control" box-on-the-air-cleaner --'79 Diplomat. I think it was more of an issue with the "computer" than the engine though. That car gave me all kinds of surprises at inopportune moments.




Hmmmm... I always thought it was kind of neat to have a Carburetor Equiped V-8 with a
non-OD transmission that weighed 4,000 lb and stil knocked down 29-31 mpg highway.

Of course we never had any problems with our three 1977 - 1986 models.
 
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Which was the last American car to use splash lubrication and babbitt bearings? 1952 Chevy is the latest that I'm aware of. Does GM get the engine prize again?




I thought the passenger cars used the engine through 1954.
The 1953 Corvette of course got the modified Blue Flame version of the Stovebolt ie bearings and oil pump.
 
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2.5L Iron duke in a 88 S15. Never could get it to run right. Sold it with 150k and the guy is still driving it after 5 years.. must of been my imagination.




I almost gave up on my 1988 S-10 with the 2.5 also. Had a cold idle problem and slight hesitation. Took it to a little Chevy dealer in Crozier, VA (little one horse town west of Richmond) and the mechanic there was the best I have ever seen. He put a new injector in it and that was the last time it ever was in the shop.
 
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Which was the last American car to use splash lubrication and babbitt bearings? 1952 Chevy is the latest that I'm aware of. Does GM get the engine prize again?


uumn, the chevy 216 was used up til 52. 53 had the Blue flame 235 6 which ran til 62

I thought the passenger cars used the engine through 1954.
The 1953 Corvette of course got the modified Blue Flame version of the Stovebolt ie bearings and oil pump.


 
The Ford 2.9 and then the 4.0 that was based on it were all prone to cracked heads. They were hit and miss as far as longevity. If you got lucky they could last a long time, but if anything ever happens and they get overheated you better be prepared to replace both heads.

I vote the Ford 3.8L as one of the worst engines as they had the head gasket problems from the 1980's up to 1996. The head gasket wouldn't just seep slowly on the outside like some engines, they would either leak coolant internally, blow out internally causing a misfire, or blow all your coolant out at once with no warning like my parents van did. The 96 and up versions didn't have the head gasket problem but they had intake gaskets that would leak, sometimes enough to hydrolock a cylinder and bend a rock, break a piston, etc. This problem also applied to the 4.2 V6 in the newer Ford trucks that was based on the 3.8
 
I am very surprised that no one has mentioned two Cadillac engines: the infamous 4-6-8 V-8 gas engine, and the diesel engine converted from a Chevy 350 block. Those owners must have some interesting tales to tell.
 
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Which was the last American car to use splash lubrication and babbitt bearings? 1952 Chevy is the latest that I'm aware of. Does GM get the engine prize again?




I thought the passenger cars used the engine through 1954.
The 1953 Corvette of course got the modified Blue Flame version of the Stovebolt ie bearings and oil pump.




That engine got pressure lube in all cars 1953. The 1952 engines in Powerslide equipped cars also had pressure lube IIRC. The same basic engine was used until about 1962.
 
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1994 Jeep Cherokee with the 4.0L straight 6. That was the worse piston slapping, block ringing, POS I have ever seen or heard. Not mention all the other stuff that was wrong with it.




WOW Thats One of my favorite engines. It does have a piston slap problem but it doesnt do anything to engine longetivity. One of mine has 200K right now and my Nephews has 400K. All with No problems.



My 96 4.0 has almost 130K on it and I've never had to spend a dime on it, other than routine maintenence.
Easily the best engine I've ever had in anything.




This is one of the best engines around. The guy must have got a lemon. I have seen several of them with over 250K on the tickers.
 
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