Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Worst:
Kumho Ecsta. Every time I had to brake I prayed, and I am not religious.
Hankook W300 (winter tire). They go on snow as pair of very good skis.
So the W300 gripped well in the turns and stopped quickly, right? Very good skis means they also have sharp edges so that you can control yourself down mountain trails. Sounds like a bad analogy
As former professional skier, I know what skis can do.
I should say, they are as fast as good skis on snow.
By far THE WORST winter tire I ever had on a car.
The W300 is a central European performance winter tire. They were bad for you because you didn't have the realistic expectations for the tire. They were not meant to grip the grip and ice like a Nokian Hakkapeliita tire. They were meant to favor cold dry roads, than snow and ice, despite the name "Icebear". I had them, and had no issues with them handling the curvy roads on my winter commute, which was mostly dry cold roads. Even got me through a few blizzards, driving sensibly on a low FWD car.
Still your analogy is horrible. fast skis are tuned properly, from the base structure to the wax and after treatments used on the base. good skis on the snow will also react to your inputs better. Your better winter tires are more akin to poorly waxed skis, including too "hot" of a wax used for the conditions, as it will grip the snow more and slow you down. Going down a mountain road fast with no control is akin to properly prepared base with worn edges.
Maybe you were a pro skier, but sounds like you didn't prep your own equipment for the races, so you wouldn't know theses nuances on why your analogy is horrible.
I probably changed 40 sets of winter tires, and know expectations.
AGAIN, by far the worst winter tire. Not because it could not go thru deep snow (this shows your lack of understanding of what is winter tire, which does not stop you to lecture left and right).
W300 were OK in deep snow (not that Nokian outside of deep snow is spectacular tire, especially on dry pavement), but were horrid in packed snow, ice and especially wet conditions, which you can find in Germany, Russia or Alaska.
But, it is OK< we figured out you know skis, not so sure about tires.