Bando, Gates or Toyota OE sepentine belt?

With German cars, just as with auto glass, there are three grades. OE, OEM, and aftermarket.

Folks who are in the Japanese car world often use the term OEM, to mean OE. Which doesn’t help matters. Also, on purpose, it’s not transparent.

A $16 Bando on Amazon, which I have in 2 vehicles, is not OEM. It’s aftermarket. And good enough, there was no need to spend $60-$80 on OE (there are Mitsoboshi and Bando OE p/n’s).

With BMW and GM from experience. The difference between OE and OEM is packaging and stickers. But we know going into it. With Japanese, we do not.

Denso is OEM to GM. The factory GM OE alternator on my wife’s car is Denso, made in USA. Her car was mfg in Michigan.

Denso, AC DELCO, Valeo, these cos are OE, OEM, and aftermarket, all 3.

A $100 Denso radiator is not the same as a $432 Denso from a dealer. Nobody claims that it is. First is aftermarket, latter OE. In this case you do want OE. With the belt, you do not.
There are many aftermarket parts that meet or surpass OE standards. In the case of timing belts, any belt in the brands favored in this post will do the job. Manufacturers do not always specify the absolute best parts, but, in fairness, I know of two specialty Honda mechanics, and The Car Care Nut who advocate OE or even OEM whenever possible, and have the results to support it. The real key, my friends, is being very, very careful with any parts, of any brand, made in China.
 
Not to continue beating a dead horse, but here are a couple pics of Toyota OE Bando (right in both pics) and aftermarket Bando (left) serpentine belt for a Tundra. The OE belt has a woven material rather than smooth for the side opposite of the ribs. I would guess this material helps with belt stretch (to increase service longevity) or noise (to prevent customers from returning due to noisy or squeaky belt).

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Not to continue beating a dead horse, but here are a couple pics of Toyota OE Bando (right in both pics) and aftermarket Bando (left) serpentine belt for a Tundra. The OE belt has a woven material rather than smooth for the side opposite of the ribs. I would guess this material helps with belt stretch (to increase service longevity) or noise (to prevent customers from returning due to noisy or squeaky belt).

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i have always wondered what the woven back side of the belt does. i see a lot of higher end vehicles with this type of belt. i guess i need to cross reference a toyota part number when my gates fleet runner shows aging.
 
That’s not a timing belt, and Continental belts would be far behind Brando, Mitsuboshi and the Toyota branded belt, although would not be offended by their use.
I never said it was a timing belt. It's a serpentine belt, as the OP was asking for. I find Continental belts every bit as good as Bando, at least in my applications (used in the past.)
 
I never said it was a timing belt. It's a serpentine belt, as the OP was asking for. I find Continental belts every bit as good as Bando, at least in my applications (used in the past.)
My mistake. I think that Continental belts are okay, but for Japanese brand vehicles, when talking about timing belts especially, always go for Bando or Mitsubishi. The problem with all modern belts is that they show little or no wear, even when they are moments from failure.
 
My mistake. I think that Continental belts are okay, but for Japanese brand vehicles, when talking about timing belts especially, always go for Bando or Mitsubishi. The problem with all modern belts is that they show little or no wear, even when they are moments from failure.
Get a serp belt gauge tool. It will indicate wear.
 
I’ve had luck with Gates and Bando aftermarket on Toyotas but the dealer belts are nice.

For a while, US-built Toyotas came off the assembly line with Dayco or Goodyear belts. Our old Sienna had Dayco and Mitsuboshi as OE. I have on a Gates and Bando.
 
Now I'm wondering if the original Toyletta belt is better than the Bando belt I have on order? Sheesh.
What's a poor boy to do?
 
Now I'm wondering if the original Toyletta belt is better than the Bando belt I have on order? Sheesh.
What's a poor boy to do?
Use what you have ordered and don’t worry about it for a while.

Timing belt interval for 2001 is every 90k miles or 6 years, so you’ll probably have an opportunity soon to see how the Bando serpentine belt is wearing.

The interval on later 4.7 V8 was changed to 90k miles or 9 years. That time limit is about as far as I would feel comfortable pushing it since the 4.7 is an interference engine.
 
Use what you have ordered and don’t worry about it for a while.

Timing belt interval for 2001 is every 90k miles or 6 years, so you’ll probably have an opportunity soon to see how the Bando serpentine belt is wearing.

The interval on later 4.7 V8 was changed to 90k miles or 9 years. That time limit is about as far as I would feel comfortable pushing it since the 4.7 is an interference engine.
Well, I'm at 23 years and 215K, or whatever on the original belt. Guess I shouldn't snivel...
 
I’ve had good luck with Bando and Gates. FWIW, the Bando is likely to be made in Japan, while the Gates in Mexico.
 
Some here claim that from the same manufacturer OEM is sometimes different than aftermarket. I.E., on my Patriot the OEM Akebono brake pads are completely different than the Akebono aftermarket. If my plans are for long care ownership, I have joined the camp of OEM on many (not all) car parts.
And then you have the possibility that the OE branded service replacement parts are different than the ones installed at the factory. Though for belts they're most likely quite good.
 
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