The O.G. Outback - my '89 GL Touring 4x4 wagon circa 1993 (?), with real truck-type high/low 4x4. Thing was a beast. Rusted easily. Slowest car I've ever owned.
Bad News for Sport Compact Car Fans - Subaru Kills the STi
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I find the latest BRZ appealing - at least from the performance standpoint - and the new 2.4 NA engine seems great, And it is relatively light weight and correct wheel drive.
I do understand your want for a 4 door, but I think you are grasping at a last bastion and touchpoint of your youth, now that you are a family man. Maybe an off lease bimmer 330i x drive M sport would be more appropriate. Personally, I have been distraught at the inability for me to buy an appealing GM sedan with sports handling package (F41) and a stick. But that era came to a close long ago.
Also in the consideration bin would be the off lease Giulia. WRX have become irritating gen Z Toys.
I don't understand the logic of keeping the new BRZ naturally-aspirated. Really cool driver's car though.
It was a matter of time. Subaru's are replacing Avalon's and Camry's as a choice for people who replaced Buick Regal with Avalon's and Camry's.
It is an actually good business decision for Subaru. They flooded the left lane driving 20mph below the speed limit.
It is an actually good business decision for Subaru. They flooded the left lane driving 20mph below the speed limit.
Does the license plate say “ride it?”
AHAHAHHAHA - yep!
Does WRC even do electric car racing yet?
An STI that isn't competing in WRC isn't a STI by heritage and pedigree
An STI that isn't competing in WRC isn't a STI by heritage and pedigree
Cheeky monkey
I have never understood the economics of mainstream brands making niche cars like the STI.
Racing, in particular WRC.
FIA WRC class
WRC class cars WRC class cars where introduced in 1997 following a FIA decision. Experience has proven that to win the WRC title a car has to be full time 4WD and, to a lesser extend, use a 2lt turbocharged engine. Not all manufacturers have (or are willing to have) such models in their line […]
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But, the 2.5L STI was more for US market tastes, as the 2.0L motor was still sold elsewhere in the world to meet FIA regs
It is quite enourmous compared to the older Impreza based models, and much larger than the rally homogulation spec road car roots it comes from. The last 2 generations I believe are 3500lbs and longer and wider.
And I mean isn’t that just it though? You yourself said you sold your wrx cause of kids/family. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But the original point of adoration for the car was it was a road going version of a rally car. You can’t have a road going version of a rally car that also satisfies the size and amenities demanded of a modern consumers who don’t want a pure sports car. So the result is an in between vehicle that isn’t as powerful or featured as it’s competitors among sports sedans, and isn’t as nimble as more pure sports cars. The market for that is very narrow, and it is spiritually divorced from what the wrx/Sti is supposed to be in the first place.
I don't think that matters, though, to its fans. The people who buy the WRX/STI aren't taking them on rally courses, at least not here in North America (maybe they are in Europe?). The WRX aftermarket is enormous and owners modify their cars in all sorts of ways which make them even less suited for rallying. The lowered suspensions, extended side skirts and front lips that all the cool kids like make the cars challenging to navigate a steep driveway apron, let alone a rally course. Ironically, mudflaps seem to be popular....
Maybe the STI will just be a trim line across all models.
Ascent STI... can't wait!
Ascent STI... can't wait!
I was into surfing and snowboarding at the time but admittedly the delivery was probably off..hahahaha
The part that is off to me is that all of these (Honda with the Civic Type R, VW with the Golf R, Subi STI, Ford with the (RIP) Focus RS) are north of $40K and the market is a younger crowd who can't (or shouldn't) be able to afford to both buy and insure cars like these. The people that can (me) get to a point where you need something more practical and don't want to look likea 25 yo at 50 and so here we are....these cars all seem to die off. The GTIs/Civic SIs/Focus ST (RIP) all sell better b/c they are more in-line with what a 25 yo can actually buy in terms of a new car OR make sense for a 50 yo like me that has the money but if we are spending $45K we may as well just go to an Audi/similar.....MK8 Golf R is pretty appealing to me though....
God help us all....Maybe the STI will just be a trim line across all models.
Ascent STI... can't wait!
You know it's coming
Like the Edge and Explorer ST - but at these Ford gives you the engines etc. to match the badging.
the WRX accounted for almost 50% of japanese impreza sales by the second year it was around. the changes to make it into the STI were pretty minimal.
complacency killed it
