Automobile Magazine 8 Car Mid-Size Sedan Shootout

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Originally Posted By: Spazdog
they didn't comprimise with the current version of the 6. They made a Mazda and that's not for everybody.


This is what I like about Mazda too - They just don't want to be everyone's car - and will take the risk of less sales; I am happy that we own something that doesn't belong to the masses of gray sedans that ones sees every 3 seconds on the road; Thinking outside the cookie-cutter box will do Mazda well, I think:

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...Mazda has a plan and it’s not to become the biggest car company in the world. Mazda will leave that to Toyota.

Mazda’s idea is to carve out a tidy niche aimed at people who value their time behind the wheel, who love to drive, rather than see wheel time as a necessary evil. As with any car company, the products define the brand and, if the recently launched CX-5 crossover and this forthcoming Mazda6 are any indication, Mazda sees itself as something of a downmarket Japanese BMW.

“We’re recognized as a Japanese brand that’s different than other Japanese brands,” says Koreeda, noting that Toyota, Honda and Nissan compete for customers across the board – many of whom want nothing more than a transportation appliance, a commuting machine that is means to go from A to B. Mazda wants buyers who bring some enthusiasm, even passion to their time behind the wheel...
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-dri...article4604138/
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
They chose the Honda Accord.

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Big surprise, the car is awesome, and better than the previous Accord in every way. I saw and sat in most of these cars at the auto show in Detroit. I love the new Accord, I'd love to have one.
 
Highway gas mileage of all 8 cars are pretty good, all are 35 MPG or better except Passat at 31 MPG, it also has the least power at 170 HP with 2.5L engine. The most powerful engines are Sonata and Optima at 200 HP with 2.4L engine.

Tiny Smart for Two with 3-cyl 1.0L engine can only musters 38 MPG highway with premium gas. It get good city mileage at 34 MPG, for a combined 36 MPG.

I rather have one of these 8 mid-size sedans that can carry 4 with full size trunk and 3-4 MPG less highway mileage.

Regardless of the test outcome, Camry will still be the number 1 mid-size seller in USA for some more years, Accord will be number 2. The buying public just buy what they think is the most reliable. Camry and Accord to them are top of the class in term of reliability and resell.
 
Yep - it all comes down to personal preference/taste - there's no car that does it all at the same level: if it's exclusive and unique a bit, and fun to drive, it won't have stellar reliability; If it's all appliance-like, and ho-hum, then there's no fun or exclusivity.

In the end one chooses the car that he/she feels happy with - I, for one, will gladly risk a repair or two and have a car that has some character to it, and some exclusivity, rather than owning an ugly snoozefest that behaves like an appliance...

I think we are all fortunate to have large selection to pick from...Good thing is, that we ALL can choose something that fits our needs/tastes.
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I think the ONLY thing standing in the way of the Mazda 6 becoming a real contender for the most sales in the USA is the poor dealer network. Mazda really needs to work on this. It would be best if they were in a stand alone store.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR

Regardless of the test outcome, Camry will still be the number 1 mid-size seller in USA for some more years, Accord will be number 2. The buying public just buy what they think is the most reliable. Camry and Accord to them are top of the class in term of reliability and resell.


The Altima is not far behind the Accord and far ahead of the 4th place Sonata.

It might surpass the Accord
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Of course they chose the Accord over the Mazda. Its a regular vanilla magazine reviewing vanilla cars with the exception of one, that being the Mazda. Mazda is not for everyone and I am also extremely pleased that they don't build a car meant to please the masses. Every commute is the same. Plain vanilla 4 door family movers. Some have the occasional piece of plastic flair on it.
I basically chalk this so called "comparo" to a USA Today article.
Americas favorite vanilla newspaper.
 
If they'd put a 2.0T SE in there it'd been no comparison... If I drive the speed limit on the hwy in eco/cruise I can get 36mpg.
 
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Originally Posted By: 97tbird

This is what I like about Mazda too - They just don't want to be everyone's car - and will take the risk of less sales; I am happy that we own something that doesn't belong to the masses of gray sedans that ones sees every 3 seconds on the road; Thinking outside the cookie-cutter box will do Mazda well, I think:

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...Mazda has a plan and it’s not to become the biggest car company in the world. Mazda will leave that to Toyota.

Mazda’s idea is to carve out a tidy niche aimed at people who value their time behind the wheel, who love to drive, rather than see wheel time as a necessary evil. As with any car company, the products define the brand and, if the recently launched CX-5 crossover and this forthcoming Mazda6 are any indication, Mazda sees itself as something of a downmarket Japanese BMW.

“We’re recognized as a Japanese brand that’s different than other Japanese brands,” says Koreeda, noting that Toyota, Honda and Nissan compete for customers across the board – many of whom want nothing more than a transportation appliance, a commuting machine that is means to go from A to B. Mazda wants buyers who bring some enthusiasm, even passion to their time behind the wheel...
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-dri...article4604138/

So they're more of a Subaru-type automaker, right?
 
i dont know at my engine shop we do far more hondas than kia or hyundai
Hyundai and kia came a long way twenty years ago people would laugh now nobody is laughing. Their warranty alone is proof that they are doing well at building cars and suvs
 
Ya know, for the first time in out car buying lives, I'd have to say that I would take just about any of those cars in the test and drive it for, practicaly ever! It comes down to the details as I believe they'd all be reliable and nice to drive.

In our earlier years, the forign makes didn't offer anything we'd trust for everyday. In the 60's & 70's, we only bought domestic but, we've been Honda & Toyota buyers since the 80's.

Only recently have we as a family moved away from those two companies. Not because HonYota doesn't build good cars but, because we don't want to miss out on the other MFG's nice offerings. REALLY, look at what is available to us all!

Brand loyal domestic buyers will do just as well as those only buying forign name plates. For us, it comes down to styling prefrence, comfort and outward vision along with those nice driving dynamics.
 
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Mazda is, like Subaru a bit of a 'stand out' from the normal crowd - I read somewhere that Mazda buyers cross shop with Subaru and saab more than other brands, and that Subaru buyers cross shop with Saab and volvo - so they're not the same 'crowd' as Toy/Hon/Niss. Europen buyers also have a big soft spot for Mazda, probably due to the driving feel of it, which speaks closer to Europe than other Japanese brands
 
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