Generally if a vehicle is identified by it's engine number, you need to notify your DMV of the change. I don't think they have used engine serial numbers on car registrations in decades.
auto trans question for the experts
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The car was sold as is. He drove it for two weeks and then discovered a problem, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. Who is to say he didn't ruin the transmission in those two weeks? I think he's trying to get over on you.
When ever I sell one of my cars I tell the person to have a mechanic check the car before they buy it. Then I give them a bill of sale, and have them sign my copy saying "Car sold as is for repairs". I've never had a problem, if they don't want to sign the copy we don't have a deal.
Frank D
When ever I sell one of my cars I tell the person to have a mechanic check the car before they buy it. Then I give them a bill of sale, and have them sign my copy saying "Car sold as is for repairs". I've never had a problem, if they don't want to sign the copy we don't have a deal.
Frank D
1--Check Ontario law. See if you have ANY responsibility with this no-warranty, no-promise private sale.
2--Tough it out. He's trying to chisel you. He's a used car dealer. Like most, he probably has to have someone else call his dog for him, 'cuz he can't even tell the truth long enough to call his own dog.
2--Tough it out. He's trying to chisel you. He's a used car dealer. Like most, he probably has to have someone else call his dog for him, 'cuz he can't even tell the truth long enough to call his own dog.
In Ontario, it's sold as-is. End of story.
Tell him to go to the garage and have it checked it. The transmission is electronically controlled, and the TCU will keep a code in (which may not always trigger a CEL). Although typically, a limp-home does involve a CEL.
Tell him to go to the garage and have it checked it. The transmission is electronically controlled, and the TCU will keep a code in (which may not always trigger a CEL). Although typically, a limp-home does involve a CEL.
I had a brain [censored]. I just re read the OP's post and the guy had the car 2 weeks! For some reason, my brain kept reading 2 hours. If the guy has had the car for 2 weeks, he's on his own. Who knows what they did to it in that time span. Yep, it sounds like a shakedown after reading everything over again. Don't relent.
I would not worry about it until he is ready to play hardball and wants to take you to court.
Tell him you are in college and could not afford to help even if you really wanted to.
Tell him you are in college and could not afford to help even if you really wanted to.
I would end the discussion quickly and just say, when I sold you the car the transmission worked perfectly, however there was no warranty expressed or implied. I would NOT get into taking it to other transmission shops for a second opinion.
Who know what he did to the transmission after you sold it to him.
Who know what he did to the transmission after you sold it to him.
i bought a used vw once that wouldnt shift into over drive, i took it to 2 independent shops and finely to the vw dealer and for $250 they replaced a part under the back seat which shifted the transmission.
express your deepest concerns for HIS problem, and suggest since his mechanic does not know what could be the problem perhaps the toyota dealer could help out, but make it clear your out of the picture, dont expect any help from you. THEN hang up, be tough you can do this, and this is the right and moral ground here.
express your deepest concerns for HIS problem, and suggest since his mechanic does not know what could be the problem perhaps the toyota dealer could help out, but make it clear your out of the picture, dont expect any help from you. THEN hang up, be tough you can do this, and this is the right and moral ground here.
I agree with telling him to pound sand.
1.He could be trying to pull a fast one on you.
2. He has had it 2 weeks......Alot can happen to something in 2 weeks. He could have tried to pull a huge boat up to a lake in the mountains and damaged the trans.
3. Stuff breaks. If he's being honest Unfortunatly it makes you look like you sold a car with a known problem.....Which you did not so this is not your probem.
I once bought a used car and the seller wrote "Where is, How is, is is".
1.He could be trying to pull a fast one on you.
2. He has had it 2 weeks......Alot can happen to something in 2 weeks. He could have tried to pull a huge boat up to a lake in the mountains and damaged the trans.
3. Stuff breaks. If he's being honest Unfortunatly it makes you look like you sold a car with a known problem.....Which you did not so this is not your probem.
I once bought a used car and the seller wrote "Where is, How is, is is".
TELL HIM TO GO [censored] HIMSELF AND BRING YOU A RECEIPT SO YOU CAN REIMBURSE HIM.
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I would not worry about it until he is ready to play hardball and wants to take you to court.
Tell him you are in college and could not afford to help even if you really wanted to.
Don't even do that. That's making an excuse where none is called for and is a sign that you might be thinking it's partly your problem. Don't even volunteer where you think he could get it fixed properly.
Politely but firmly tell him the sale was final with no warranty.
I would not worry about it until he is ready to play hardball and wants to take you to court.
Tell him you are in college and could not afford to help even if you really wanted to.
Don't even do that. That's making an excuse where none is called for and is a sign that you might be thinking it's partly your problem. Don't even volunteer where you think he could get it fixed properly.
Politely but firmly tell him the sale was final with no warranty.
Don't answer anything except a subpoena from court. Ignore the idiot and he will go away. You owe him nothing as it is a private sale. If he harrasses you, prosecute. He is just trying to shake you down for some cash for his trans mechanic who will kick back 25% to him.
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Let me throw in my experience here:
I recently bought a car from a private party. NOT sold as is, in NC it is not considered "as is" unless you sign a paper stating that you bought the car "as is". The only known problem was the electric sunroof didn't work. I payed 2,000.00 for the car, drove fine for a day or two.
After a few days, here's what was wrong with it:
Needed a new cooling system (radiator, overflow tank, sensors, and waterpump.
A/C compressor died.
Starter died.
Alternator was replaced with the starter.
Master cylinder was worn out.
Finally three days after I had it the timing belt snapped and the valves collapsed.
In short, I got took.
The seller feigned ignorance, so I took her to small claims court. The judge made her pay me my money back, the money for the repairs I had done, and had her take the car back.
In NC, we have a lemon law that extends to private party sales. Being that there was no written "As Is" clause and the judge rightly believed that she didn't tell me about any of the pre-existing problems, I got lucky.
Thing is, you have 28 days after point of sale to file a claim if you have repairs that meet or exceed the sales price of the vehicle. Being that it would have cost twice what I paid for the vehicle to have it repaired, it classified as a lemon being that the judge deemed that I couldn't have caused the damage in three days and that there was reasonable suspicion that she was aware of the problems and didn't inform me.
So all I can say is if you sell a car, at least in NC, make danged sure that you have a piece of paper signed by the buyer that expressly states that the car is being sold as is. Even still, this may not be enough to cover yourself in court under certain circumstances.
I recently bought a car from a private party. NOT sold as is, in NC it is not considered "as is" unless you sign a paper stating that you bought the car "as is". The only known problem was the electric sunroof didn't work. I payed 2,000.00 for the car, drove fine for a day or two.
After a few days, here's what was wrong with it:
Needed a new cooling system (radiator, overflow tank, sensors, and waterpump.
A/C compressor died.
Starter died.
Alternator was replaced with the starter.
Master cylinder was worn out.
Finally three days after I had it the timing belt snapped and the valves collapsed.
In short, I got took.
The seller feigned ignorance, so I took her to small claims court. The judge made her pay me my money back, the money for the repairs I had done, and had her take the car back.
In NC, we have a lemon law that extends to private party sales. Being that there was no written "As Is" clause and the judge rightly believed that she didn't tell me about any of the pre-existing problems, I got lucky.
Thing is, you have 28 days after point of sale to file a claim if you have repairs that meet or exceed the sales price of the vehicle. Being that it would have cost twice what I paid for the vehicle to have it repaired, it classified as a lemon being that the judge deemed that I couldn't have caused the damage in three days and that there was reasonable suspicion that she was aware of the problems and didn't inform me.
So all I can say is if you sell a car, at least in NC, make danged sure that you have a piece of paper signed by the buyer that expressly states that the car is being sold as is. Even still, this may not be enough to cover yourself in court under certain circumstances.
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As I've answered, in Ontario, all private party sales are as-is, where-is, unless a mutually signed warranty contract exists (and by the OP's post, there clearly isn't).
As I've answered, in Ontario, all private party sales are as-is, where-is, unless a mutually signed warranty contract exists (and by the OP's post, there clearly isn't).
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Originally Posted By: parimento1
TELL HIM TO GO [censored] HIMSELF AND BRING YOU A RECEIPT SO YOU CAN REIMBURSE HIM.
For "doing" himself? That's free of charge, I'd suspect
TELL HIM TO GO [censored] HIMSELF AND BRING YOU A RECEIPT SO YOU CAN REIMBURSE HIM.
For "doing" himself? That's free of charge, I'd suspect
At this point, I would ignore him, especially if as others have said your law says its sold as is. Worry about it if/when you have to go to court. Tell him to have a nice day!
Frank D
Frank D
Thanks BITOG'ers -
I am in university , and I am 30yrs old - I went back after working for 7 years as a financial advisor -
I am going to the university legal center, and give them all the info I have - lots of great feedback here - thanx very much
I sold a car privatly a long time ago ----- when I was in my teens.
And I have bought cars through the year from people, that had problems down the road - It never crossed my mind to bug or try to scam the seller for anything - you are buying a depreciable asset----- it will eventually breakdown - thats what cars do.....
If I could avoid not owning a car - I would-
thanks again guys
take care.
I am in university , and I am 30yrs old - I went back after working for 7 years as a financial advisor -
I am going to the university legal center, and give them all the info I have - lots of great feedback here - thanx very much
I sold a car privatly a long time ago ----- when I was in my teens.
And I have bought cars through the year from people, that had problems down the road - It never crossed my mind to bug or try to scam the seller for anything - you are buying a depreciable asset----- it will eventually breakdown - thats what cars do.....
If I could avoid not owning a car - I would-
thanks again guys
take care.
Originally Posted By: nicholas
Thanks BITOG'ers -
I am in university , and I am 30yrs old - I went back after working for 7 years as a financial advisor -
I am going to the university legal center, and give them all the info I have - lots of great feedback here - thanx very much
I sold a car privatly a long time ago ----- when I was in my teens.
And I have bought cars through the year from people, that had problems down the road - It never crossed my mind to bug or try to scam the seller for anything - you are buying a depreciable asset----- it will eventually breakdown - thats what cars do.....
If I could avoid not owning a car - I would-
thanks again guys
take care.
Wow, you must be really hard pressed for a car, do you live in the sticks? I absolutely LOVE the transit system in Ottawa, so much that I exclusively use it on all my trips (personal trips or off-time from work)! Seriously, even on my last trip downtown on a Sunday, got a coffee, missed the bus to the Rideau. Oh well, another one passes through in twelve minutes!
My friend used to commute for an hour in grid-locked 416. He now rides the bus for half an hour. Says he'll never go back to a car if he can avoid it. Nothing like seeing the city bus fly-by on the 416 while you're locked in bumper-to-bumper.
You can typically hear me cursing because my own bus is locked in the grid!
Thanks BITOG'ers -
I am in university , and I am 30yrs old - I went back after working for 7 years as a financial advisor -
I am going to the university legal center, and give them all the info I have - lots of great feedback here - thanx very much
I sold a car privatly a long time ago ----- when I was in my teens.
And I have bought cars through the year from people, that had problems down the road - It never crossed my mind to bug or try to scam the seller for anything - you are buying a depreciable asset----- it will eventually breakdown - thats what cars do.....
If I could avoid not owning a car - I would-
thanks again guys
take care.
Wow, you must be really hard pressed for a car, do you live in the sticks? I absolutely LOVE the transit system in Ottawa, so much that I exclusively use it on all my trips (personal trips or off-time from work)! Seriously, even on my last trip downtown on a Sunday, got a coffee, missed the bus to the Rideau. Oh well, another one passes through in twelve minutes!
My friend used to commute for an hour in grid-locked 416. He now rides the bus for half an hour. Says he'll never go back to a car if he can avoid it. Nothing like seeing the city bus fly-by on the 416 while you're locked in bumper-to-bumper.
You can typically hear me cursing because my own bus is locked in the grid!
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