Sounds like fun, but would it not be easier to push the defeat button.
Auto Stop Start Starter end of life code
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Very satisfied w/ the stop/start defeat device i installed on the Wrangler, well made and easy install too. Need to figure out the 911...
Stop/start on manuals is infuriating!
Stop/start on manuals is infuriating!
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Our 2018 Equinox doesn't have a button like our 2025 Telluride, and I don't feel like adding another accessory to this car (getting 2 dashcams wired up was a real pain). Since the 'Nox is my daily driver now it's just muscle memory at this point to throw it into low and hit the upshift (+) button 5 times to 6th gear.
Same youtuber that just put out another video saying that Toyota engines in other countries use thicker oil because the "electric" oil pump is programmed differently. Never mind that the same Dynamic force engine with the same oil pump in Australia and it says you can use anything from 0W-16 to 15W-40. I guess the Australian "electric" oil pump takes a sample of oil before startup and adjusts accordingly. Maybe its AI 
Guy wouldn't know a line of code if it fell out of GitHub and hit him in the face. He should stick to firing the parts canon.
Guy wouldn't know a line of code if it fell out of GitHub and hit him in the face. He should stick to firing the parts canon.
With my GMC it is not smooth and a bit annoying. I disable it in heavy traffic, which is most of my driving.
in my area, 1 start stop per 0.75 mile sounds reasonable.
All the traffic lighta are coordinated, all the left turns at big intersections are green-arrow-turns only.
obviously different for peeps who drive country miles
AZjeff
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I have a somewhat short drive to work, with a bit of stop and go. If I don't disable it myself, it will do so because the battery gets too low after a day. So if I don't disable it, my batter won't get over something like 60% if that.
There are a couple situations where my Powerboost isn't super smooth, but that's usually just the first start of the day when I'm backing out of my steep driveway and the truck isn't running the ICE. To avoid it I just mat the throttle after 'starting' the truck and it will spin up the ICE.
It also has two starting methods to choose from. There is a 'traditional' starter hanging off the engine and then the Motor/Generator that can also spin the ICE back up. It seems that it uses the M/G when the truck is in gears 1,2, or 3, and the 'traditional' starter other times.
Not the same as a traditional car with Auto Stop/Start, but the truck does cycle the engine many more times than a normal car.
It also has two starting methods to choose from. There is a 'traditional' starter hanging off the engine and then the Motor/Generator that can also spin the ICE back up. It seems that it uses the M/G when the truck is in gears 1,2, or 3, and the 'traditional' starter other times.
Not the same as a traditional car with Auto Stop/Start, but the truck does cycle the engine many more times than a normal car.
The post office or Amazon delivery are the only ones that I could think of.
I hate S/S and have disabled it on both our cars. I don't care about the starter, it's the engine wear that I am worried about.
Cars with SS systems do have a heavy duty starter, by disabling the SS system, you essentially end up with a forever lasting starter.
As far as the amount of start/stop cycles these vehicles see per day, it's highly speculative and will vary wildly per use case. I constantly hear cars starting and stopping as people creep forward during traffic or red lights. It could be several times per light for people that habitability creep. So as with many things in life, YMMV.
As far as the amount of start/stop cycles these vehicles see per day, it's highly speculative and will vary wildly per use case. I constantly hear cars starting and stopping as people creep forward during traffic or red lights. It could be several times per light for people that habitability creep. So as with many things in life, YMMV.
20ish years ago when I was commuting daily across Philly on the Schuylkill expressway, I travelled 76 miles round trip. Mostly in 25 foot increments. Somehow my clutch survived it, but it would not take long for a stop/start to reach 50 gazillion starts.
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Yeah, they could have built a short lag in - so I’m just cutting it off bcs it’s too quick to kill the motor at a lonely stop
Exactly! I've had rentals that kill the motor the moment you come to a stop. So if you're making a left hand or tight hand turn and need to creep forward to see the traffic better, it keeps starting and stopping the engine. It's very annoying at the very least IMO.Yeah, they could have built a short lag in - so I’m just cutting it off bcs it’s too quick to kill the motor at a lonely stop
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I put one of those ~$10 hood switch bypass harnesses in both my 2021 Equinox and 2021 Traverse to defeat the auto stop/start. Literally a 2min job. Neither of these 2021s has a disable button for the auto stop/start. Both vehicles have about 70K miles on them at this point and haven't auto stop/started since I bought them at ~30K.
Edit- Sorry @AZjeff I didn't see you posted this already!
It's down under--so it spins backwards. Makes it more tolerant of oil thickness.
384k and it needs a starter. After setting a code. Nah, I'd rather have the old school starter back, it might have needed dual batteries to crank in the cold and was apt to die every 50 to 100k--but it was $25 to replace at the corner store if you stacked coupons. And then was free to replace every 10k after that. Way better.
That proves they are durable. 384,000 is a lot of cycles. BTW-you are not factoring your time.
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Whenever people want to try to delude themselves into thinking the Pentastar is a great engine......there's a written "post" from one of the alleged Pentastar engineers that floats all around the interweb and is pulled out as evidence that the Pentastar is great.
I have no idea if said person even exists or it's legit, but one thing he says is that stop/start is very bad for the Pentastar. I think it's because of cam life relative to oil pressure with all those starts, but admittedly I don't remember if he explains why.
I understand this is Stellantis while the thread began with CCN/Toyota. The point is engine design may matter in engine longevity when stop/start is employed.
I have no idea if said person even exists or it's legit, but one thing he says is that stop/start is very bad for the Pentastar. I think it's because of cam life relative to oil pressure with all those starts, but admittedly I don't remember if he explains why.
I understand this is Stellantis while the thread began with CCN/Toyota. The point is engine design may matter in engine longevity when stop/start is employed.
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