Auto-RX on Mazda MX6, 151k?

[Schwinn]

Hello,

I have seen a good deal of success stories here and elsewhere about AutoRX and am considering performing it on my car, but I am very leery of "fix-in-a-bottle" solutions. More specifically, I am afraid that cleaning out the engine may result in more leaks on the car, so I wanted to get some questions answered.

First of all, I see many good results here on the site. Have there been any bad-results from this treatment? I am ignoring those who didn't follow the directions properly, so I am looking for true failures. In those cases, what problems were "created"?

My car (1993) has 151k miles on it (V6). It's been running Mobil 1 5w30 since I bought it (in 1996 w/34k miles on it). Currently, I am going through O2 sensors on the front bank, but other than that the car is running well. A friend of mine commented that I may be experiencing valve seal issues which is causing oil to contaminate the O2 sensor. He also mentioned that the car puffs a little blue smoke when I gear change when driving hard (during throttle-off) which is why he thinks it's the valve seals. Is this a possible scenario for my O2 sensor problems? Does the diagnosis of the valve-seals seem to be correct, or would it be something else? (Oil loss on the engine was about 1 qt every 3k miles or so, but that was before I repaired a leaking oil pressure sending unit).

Is there anything I should look out for before trying the AutoRX treatment? Basically, I don't want to end up "creating" leaks in the process!

Any advice is appreciated.

 

[Frank]

Your engine is a candidate for false seals (made up of oil-dirt-contaminants)these seals will fail and you will have major problems. Auto-Rx will clean out these type seals, refurbish the old seal material and stop leaks (unless seals are ripped or torn )all you have to do is follow application instructions.Please read "Proof Of Value Page" on Auto-Rx web site. Auto-Rx does no harm.

[ June 18, 2004, 01:51 PM: Message edited by: Frank ]

 

[Schwinn]

I realize it won't do any harm, technically. But, in cleaning out the engine, I am concerned that it will remove any "sealing deposits" and create leaks.

As you mentioned, it won't fix cracked or broken seals, of course. I don't think I have that issue, as it's only a small puff, as my friend says. But if, for example, it was cracked, the sludge in the crack would now open up and I would have a bigger problem, right? That's what I am concerned about....

So, again, are there any bad-result stories about using AutoRX (barring the improperly used ones)?

I am sorry for my extreme skepticism... but after the Prolong, Slick 50, and other claims, it's hard to believe that a bottle of "stuff" will fix such problems so easily. After all, it's not hard to get good-result letters on a website, as we all know. I would love to believe it does all that it says it can... and just want to make an informed decision on it. Again, sorry for being a pest about it.

 

[Durrr]

I had the same problem in mine (96 accord I-4) with 125,000 miles. stopped ALL oil consumption since ive run the treatment. It really does all that it says (which is a nice change of pace)

 

[Frank]

Every letter on the Auto-Rx web site on the "Proof Of Value" Page is voluntairly written
by a user of Auto-Rx contrary to your comment they are not easily gotten.Auto-Rx works that why
we guarantee it to perfrom to buyers satisfaction.
or there is no charge.We work on the honor system
and your part is to follow the application instructions found on the Auto-Rx web site Your
engine does not have any sealing deposits just dirt and oil contaminants,they will fail and your
engine will never be the same.

 

[Schwinn]

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Originally posted by Frank:
Every letter on the Auto-Rx web site on the "Proof Of Value" Page is voluntairly written
by a user of Auto-Rx contrary to your comment they are not easily gotten.

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I mean no offence by my comment about the letters - I was simply pointing out that many other "snake-oil" products provide similar user comments with good results (for example, see http://www.turbonator.com/Feedback.html )

So, you can understand why testimonials aren't very helpful to me, though I will admit that my reading here has still kept me interested with this product. I am finding many posts on successes with AutoRX, which is why I am so interested!

I guess what I am asking is, have there ever been any bad-results from this product? If so, what were they? What happened?

 

[Gary Allan]

We've seen some posts here where the problems were severe enough that ARX couldn't correct them. It's not a "mechanic in a can" for everything. If somethings damaged, as Frank says, ..it will be damaged whether it's clean or dirty.

I was sceptical about it ...not to say that I thought it was snake oil ...but that I didn't think that it would cure my fogger of a Mitsubishi 3.0 in my Caravan. I figured "what do I have to lose?". I'm into my second cleaning ...and I'm seeing less and less smoking at idle (the only time it smokes due to the placement and design of the seals) and an annoying cyclical lifter tap upon start up is gone.

The only annoying thing is the waiting. We're typically geared to immediate gratification on most things. The 1500 mile wait is often too much for many. Typically a vehicle with the 100,000 PLUS miles on it is not the "frequent flyer" vehicle and tends to accumulate mileage more slowly. Two or three months is beyond many's attention span.

I think that your concerns are unwarranted. You may experience intermediate leakage that typically goes into remission as the full cycle of the treatment is seen through to the end.


This waiting is not a natural act for most of us.

 

[Schwinn]

Well, as my skepticism seems unfounded, I will give this a try on my car.

As I am performing this work, is there any data I can offer to take with my process? I have access to a good deal of engineering tools (as I am an engineer, of course!) and would be happy to collect some "hard" data, if anyone is interested in something specific?

 

[ikarus1]

Do a before and after UOA with pics of the filter after the initial treatment, then one after both treatments

 

[LarryD]

A before/after compression test will be very helpful to guage engine improvements.

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Originally posted by Schwinn:
Well, as my skepticism seems unfounded, I will give this a try on my car.

As I am performing this work, is there any data I can offer to take with my process? I have access to a good deal of engineering tools (as I am an engineer, of course!) and would be happy to collect some "hard" data, if anyone is interested in something specific?

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