My take on this thread is that some of wouldn’t want to be neighbors.
article: why HOAs continue to be popular
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^This. I'm living it right now.
Not going to go into detail, but there are two items prohibited in the original covenants when the subdivision came to be. People moved in and decided they wanted to change the covenants, and the builder said once the property is turned over to the HOA, have at it.
Over 20 years in and the people wanting the change can't even get enough signatures on a petition for the HOA to start the process to make the change and bring it to a vote.
Something sounds amiss, because they can't just change the rules. If the rules are spelled out - it requires a vote, and in my case for example 60% of the owners must vote to change. Not 60% of the vote, an actual 60% of all owners must vote for the change.
Now of course 60% of my neighbors could decide lawn chairs are trash then I would be SOL.
Generally, condo and shared wall type properties are far more restrictive than single family HOA's - but yes anything is possible.
Of course lots of people here complain constantly because they can't permanently park their RV or commercial van overnight. I don't want a long line of commercial vehicles and RV's lining the street. So I am OK with this rule.
It's amazing what people can be conned into when someone else controls the narrative.
Sounded amiss to me that the HOA could redefine the word "trash" to include items that were formerly allowed, but they did.
Every HOA is different with what it takes to make changes and or how change of control is mandated.
Moving into an HOA controlled property and complaining about the rules is a lot like moving near an airport and complaining about the noise - thats all on you for your choices.
I have traveled extensively thought-out South America. In some countries you can have a tire or transmission shop right next door to a single family house. While zoning prevents this in the U.S -HOA's prevent someone opening up a side hustle on the weekends next to my home.
Sorry-I don't want someone dropping a transmission or pulling a motor next door to me. Rent a commercial garage somewhere.
Sorry-I don't want someone dropping a transmission or pulling a motor next door to me. Rent a commercial garage somewhere.
Around here every new development has an HOA . The developer runs the HOA until every lot is sold then the residents can assume control ,
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Selling properties as an agent and owning properties myself I think it truly depends on the person.Something sounds amiss, because they can't just change the rules. If the rules are spelled out - it requires a vote, and in my case for example 60% of the owners must vote to change. Not 60% of the vote, an actual 60% of all owners must vote for the change.
Now of course 60% of my neighbors could decide lawn chairs are trash then I would be SOL.
Generally, condo and shared wall type properties are far more restrictive than single family HOA's - but yes anything is possible.
Of course lots of people here complain constantly because they can't permanently park their RV or commercial van overnight. I don't want a long line of commercial vehicles and RV's lining the street. So I am OK with this rule.
I hate to generalize but as I see it, an HOA forces everyone to "fit in" to a standard. Thats okay as that standard may be exactly what that person wants in his home and neighborhood. No wrong or right way to do it as we are all built different and have different wants and needs.
Perhaps that home with a .25 to .56 acre with that nice yard, all well maintained houses, nice sidewalks for the family to walk in the evening, no cars parked on the street etc fits exactly what I think most people in my area want. My coastal retirement area and life style attracts folks that would buy a home in a HOA and is mostly all you will find if you want to buy a home in my area. But then then you have a few people built like me.
The kind of person that can't fit in and conform to HOA rules and regs...
I simply can't conform, My DNA won't allow it. I'm the kinda person who won't do social media, I won't buy a Honda accord or Toyota or a Tesla as nice and well built as those cars are. When I walk out of a grocery store I don't have to hunt for my car in a sea of all cars look the same...
I own 2 utility trailers, one large and enclosed, a work van ( not used for work, I wanted a work van so thats what I have ), a Ram 3500, a Dodge Hellcat thats loud as hell when I start it and NOT exactly neighbor friendly.
I own 3 Harley bikes that is also loud as hell. a Club Car golf cart, a retired police Crown Vic and a Snapper Lawn mower! a wife and almost grown children all with cars, NO RV or Boat but I have a place to park them and I CAN park them IF I ever buy one or both or three.
I like to do lots of my own oil changes, deep detail wash and polish my bikes and have no issue doing those oil changes / detail under a temporary canopy tent I set up in my driveway when bike week comes to town so I can wash and service all my bikes as I come and go those 2 weeks, twice a year all without upsetting anyone... I do it because I want to and I can.
Life outside of a HOA is THE stuff I live for, The stuff I LOVE from simply setting up and tent and change my oil in my driveway or parking my van with a ladder on top with out a HOA sending me a letter is a life I MUST have!
I love my House, I live in a busy high $ coastal area. I'm actually zoned commercial so I can and do run (3) small business from my home. I'm 100 yards to the Inlet ( Ocean ) and a mile from the intracoastal ( I need a boat ). My neighbors are more a mix of AirBnb homes than a traditional neighbor now. YES, with NO HOA I can rent my home weekly via AirBnb If I wish and I can say bring your boat! ( I still have a few normal real people neighbors that I can call on for anything ) but I would NOT have it any other way because as long as its legal I can do whatever the freak I want to do period. No HOA = Total freedom, not for everyone but a must for me!
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Guarantee this article was written by one of those typical HOA Kens or Karens. You know the types, they are given exactly one inch of power and they will enforce it with crushing authority.
Also HOA’s are about maintaining property values, not enforcing community trust. Ridiculous on its face.
Also HOA’s are about maintaining property values, not enforcing community trust. Ridiculous on its face.
I do miss the convenience of stepping out of our condo and onto my boat. 5 minutes from the Little River Inlet and I was fishing. Other than that I’m over it…
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Lots to be said for having a boat and not, you know the old saying...
Growing up and as a young adult we had a lake cabin on Lake Wateree in South Carolina. We always had a ski and a pontoon boat in the water all Summer attached to our dock.
I now live a mile from access at the Coast and won't own a boat as I guess I'm lazy but the idea of much more than walking out the house and into a boat its WAY too much trouble for me...
I like the Little River SC area The wife and I enjoy riding the Harley doing a day ride and eating in Calabash NC and we always stop and shop at Boulineau's in North Myrtle at least once or twice a month in the Summer and have only missed 1-2 Blue Crab Festivals in 30 years!
https://www.bluecrabfestival.org/
Yes. Our condo-marina complex (Mariners Point) was about a block from the Little River waterfront. It was convenient in many ways but became unaffordable especially since we’ve retired. The absolute quickest I could get down there from our home in Wake county is 3 hrs 15 minutes. That’s when I knew I could hit the water as soon as we carried stuff from the truck into the condo. She usually wasn’t speaking to me after those aggressive rides so not really worth it! It would take 1/2 the weekend to mend fences. Got stopped by a trooper going down one Friday night. I was passing everything like it was tied to a stump. The trooper asked me if I knew how fast I was going. I didn’t but I admitted I knew I was speeding and that my wife was already mad at me. Our dog was between us mad and barking. He said, “I’m not going to write you a ticket, you’ve probably got enough trouble to take care of.” He must have seen I was in hot water anyway. That’s a first for me. I’ve never been given a pass…
Pay someone to give me more rules to live by under threat of state sanctioned violence? Oh yes government me harder daddy.....
Hard pass.
Hard pass.
This. You voluntarily surrender certain rights. This may be good for some, and that's great. But you must realize there is always the possibility of that "Karen" showing up. It's part of it, period.
I would never live in an HOA but absolutely support them in place of government standards on aesthetics. Let like minded people form their own neighborhood "governments" and keep actual government oversight to a bare minimum.
And yes, "no HOA" is frequently listed as a selling point here.
I guess its lost on those arguing that HOA's shouldn't exist - is essentially Karen telling other people how to live. 
I would rather buy 5 acres and live in a new double wide trailer than live in a new McMansion with an HOA.
I can’t deal with idiot HOA Karens.
It's a symbiotic relationship. Once can't exist without the other.I guess its lost on those arguing that HOA's shouldn't exist - is essentially Karen telling other people how to live.
That’s not by Archie’s is it?
Or by the restaurant near the swing bridge?
I think those two places above or right on the north Myrtle Beach border, though.
Ahhh.. no, I know those condos.
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That's on them. Our first house was in a HOA, which really just covered garbage pick up ($300/year) and that was it. But I read all the stuff before I placed an offer and even called the office to ask questions. Thankfully they were an otherwise hands off HOA. If I can manage that at 20 years old without my parents help, I have absolutely zero sympathy for people who don't do that.
Absolutely, but lots of people say this and then things change. So just understand how EXACTLY new rules are implemented. Majority? 2/3 vote? Some other method? Can you protest? Can you be grandfathered in with new rules?
Think of it like giving POA to someone, or making them a signer on your checking account -- do you REALLY REALLY trust that person and/or are their powers limited so they can't empty your account?
If the answer is no, anything is possible and no one can complain when the unthinkable happens because you agreed to that risk.
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