Any Honda Ridgeline Owners On Here??

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Meh what's the point of a truck with IRS, and no frame? I guess if your just hauling some furniture around once in awhile its fine.

But they are not real trucks, just upgraded minivans with the back's chopped off.

Plenty for most people though.
 
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'd be worried about towing with independent rear suspension

I don't think that's as big an issue as it being a unibody and not a full frame. I've got a friend in collingwood with one of these. He would tow the work trailer to and from the site. About a year after purchase I noticed the tail sat crooked,not level. Well after towing that trailer daily he tweaked the frame on the back end. Soon the rear doors didn't line up quite right and ended up breaking the latch pins.
It's not a work horse. Will it tow,sure,but it's not built for towing. And the 6er left alot to be desired for power will a cabin full of people.
This was 4 years ago so maybe they improved the design on today's model but I wasn't impressed with it at all.
I'll take my 99 chev 4x4 over that thing any day of the week.


Yeah I remember when the Ridgeline first came out people were tweaking the bodies by loading the beds up to much than driving them up steep driveways. People figure if the bed can physically hold something the truck can carry it, which isn't true with just about every truck made. But at least with a nice stiff frame underneath and a solid rear axle you have a much larger margin of error for idiot loads.
 
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Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Plenty for most people though.


And that's the bottom line. For what most people use trucks for, the Ridgeline is a perfect fit. I've owned two "real trucks" with full frames, and drive "real trucks" with full frames at work every day of the week. The Ridgeline beats them all for what I really want in a truck: to carry passengers in comfort, to deliver some level of chassis dynamics, and to haul the occasional dresser or lawn mower or stack of lumber.
 
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Meh what's the point of a truck with IRS, and no frame? I guess if your just hauling some furniture around once in awhile its fine.

But they are not real trucks, just upgraded minivans with the back's chopped off.

Plenty for most people though.

Spoken like a 'real truck' guy....am I right? Your post is inaccurate and contains a bit of exaggeration, don't you think?
The Ridgeline will haul FAR more than 'some furniture'. And the repeated mini-van quip has gotten old. It's nothing of the kind.
Is it body on frame and built to haul a 10,000 pound trailer? No. But it's not intended to do that. Besides, all the nonsense about what a 'real' truck is, is nothing more than talk. All modern vehicles have undergone many changes. What you call a 'real' truck is what some old timers might call a bunch of cheap plastic, thin metal, and fancy-pants interior. But it's silly anyway. Who cares. If it works well for what a person buys it for, all the slights in the world only make the the person spouting them seem somehow....small.
Just my opinion.
 
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
I really tried to like them, I did...

With the black mesh grill, it almost starts to look good. Liking the underbed storage too. I do like the way it drives but seating position was a little minivan like. For a very large portion of pickup owners, the Ridgeline will do everything they use a pickup for.

But this was the worst part:
Honda Ridgeline RT
City (mpg) 15
Highway (mpg) 21

Chevrolet Avalanche LT 4WD
City (mpg) 15
Highway (mpg) 21


If Yahoo Auto's is not mistaken....a Chevy Avalanche with 4 wheel drive is MUCH more expensive than a Ridgeline. And the mpg thing really isn't much of a big deal when you consider that even a 4-banger 2013 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 gets a rating of 18/21 mpg. And a 6 cylinder Ford F150 is about the same at 16/21. So while the Avalanche can do more, it's at a higher price.....and yes, the F150 can also haul more, but the mpg's are no better. The Toyota? Surprising that the Tacoma gets NO better mpg's with a 4 cylinder w/4 wheel drive.
My Ridgeline was a great vehicle....but I was no heavy-duty hauler of anything much more than 5,000 pounds max. But it served me very well and provided much comfort and agility that the other vehicles mentioned here just don't compare.
 
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'd be worried about towing with independent rear suspension

I don't think that's as big an issue as it being a unibody and not a full frame. I've got a friend in collingwood with one of these. He would tow the work trailer to and from the site. About a year after purchase I noticed the tail sat crooked,not level. Well after towing that trailer daily he tweaked the frame on the back end. Soon the rear doors didn't line up quite right and ended up breaking the latch pins.
It's not a work horse. Will it tow,sure,but it's not built for towing. And the 6er left alot to be desired for power will a cabin full of people.
This was 4 years ago so maybe they improved the design on today's model but I wasn't impressed with it at all.
I'll take my 99 chev 4x4 over that thing any day of the week.


Yeah I remember when the Ridgeline first came out people were tweaking the bodies by loading the beds up to much than driving them up steep driveways. People figure if the bed can physically hold something the truck can carry it, which isn't true with just about every truck made. But at least with a nice stiff frame underneath and a solid rear axle you have a much larger margin of error for idiot loads.

Lol...never heard of anything happening while driving up a steep driveway. I do recall some fools going off-road and HAMMERING the trucks. Yes, some (very, very few) did show signs of flexing and screwing up the body. But that's more from foolish driving and abuse than anything else.
Steep driveway? Lol...you're killin me.
 
I would have no problems hanging 5000 pounds off of the back of my Cherokee because of the solid axle.

I've seen many Ridgelines and Pilots (and to a lesser extent) Expeditions towing close to their max towing capacity. Guess that the rear end looked like? ... Something like thist /-----\ ... it's not safe towing that much weight riding on the inside sidewall of the tire.
 
the ridgeline is a junk vehicle. get a beater pickup for less than 2 grand. thats what a real pickup is, nothing but a wheel barrow.
 
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
I've seen many Ridgelines and Pilots (and to a lesser extent) Expeditions towing close to their max towing capacity. Guess that the rear end looked like? ... Something like thist /-----\ ... it's not safe towing that much weight riding on the inside sidewall of the tire.


Negative camber actually adds a high degree of rear stability to a vehicle. Obviously, the tire isn't literally riding on the inside sidewall as you say. That's physically not possible with the suspension geometry. I know; I own one (our MDX). The tires WILL camber in with load. This is done to increase rear stability; most every car with IRS does this because it really does work. Even cars with dead (non-driving) solid axles or rear twist beams have some static negative camber built-in to the system. With fairly compliant suspensions as found in passenger cars, SUVs, and light trucks, you WANT negative camber in the rear to promote stability, to the degree that you can reasonably do it. With a live (driving) solid axle, you obviously can't do that. That's a limitation of a live solid axle, and it's one reason why you see fewer and fewer solid axles these days.

The last family vehicle we owned had a solid rear axle, and I can promise you that the one with IRS was far more stable with a heavy load in the back.
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Meh what's the point of a truck with IRS, and no frame? I guess if your just hauling some furniture around once in awhile its fine.

But they are not real trucks, just upgraded minivans with the back's chopped off.

Plenty for most people though.

Spoken like a 'real truck' guy....am I right? Your post is inaccurate and contains a bit of exaggeration, don't you think?
The Ridgeline will haul FAR more than 'some furniture'. And the repeated mini-van quip has gotten old. It's nothing of the kind.
Is it body on frame and built to haul a 10,000 pound trailer? No. But it's not intended to do that. Besides, all the nonsense about what a 'real' truck is, is nothing more than talk. All modern vehicles have undergone many changes. What you call a 'real' truck is what some old timers might call a bunch of cheap plastic, thin metal, and fancy-pants interior. But it's silly anyway. Who cares. If it works well for what a person buys it for, all the slights in the world only make the the person spouting them seem somehow....small.
Just my opinion.


I'm not a truck guy at all, I hate trucks. To me a truck isn't much different than a shovel, or a screw driver. Just a tool for a job, and to make money. I cannot understand why someone would buy a truck to drive around, to just drive, when there are so many superior cars available.

Just like their are different sized sockets, they make different sized trucks.

Since IMHO the Ridgeline for its size is not work efficient, (beds to small) I don't really care for it.
 
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Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I've seen many Ridgelines and Pilots (and to a lesser extent) Expeditions towing close to their max towing capacity. Guess that the rear end looked like? ... Something like thist /-----\ ... it's not safe towing that much weight riding on the inside sidewall of the tire.


Negative camber actually adds a high degree of rear stability to a vehicle. Obviously, the tire isn't literally riding on the inside sidewall as you say. That's physically not possible with the suspension geometry. I know; I own one (our MDX). The tires WILL camber in with load. This is done to increase rear stability; most every car with IRS does this because it really does work. Even cars with dead (non-driving) solid axles or rear twist beams have some static negative camber built-in to the system. With fairly compliant suspensions as found in passenger cars, SUVs, and light trucks, you WANT negative camber in the rear to promote stability, to the degree that you can reasonably do it. With a live (driving) solid axle, you obviously can't do that. That's a limitation of a live solid axle, and it's one reason why you see fewer and fewer solid axles these days.

The last family vehicle we owned had a solid rear axle, and I can promise you that the one with IRS was far more stable with a heavy load in the back.


I will disagree with you here, their is a reason no real truck uses IRS or even IFS.

It simply cannot handle the weight of heavy loads, and no its not safe to have a ton of chamber like that on tires, when your carrying a lot. That's how you ruin your wheel bearings and could break an axle too.

Independent suspension was developed by racers for handling, the old wagon axle had been around for thousands of years before that for a reason. It doesn't handle or drive fast very well, but its the most efficient(read least expensive) way to carry a lot of weight.
 
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To the people that actually read what I was going to use the truck for: Thank you for saying that it would be a great fit.

To the people that actually own the Ridgeline or own vehicles that the Ridgeline was based off of or shared the engine and transmission: Thank you for your reviews.

To everyone arguing about it isn't a truck, can't haul and can't tow, thanks for NOT reading anything I said and adding your opinions that don't apply to my situation one little bit.

As I stated in the beginning I have no need for a "real truck". I want something that I can haul light loads in = No need for a regular truck. I WILL NEVER be towing, and yet people keep bringing that up. IRS do i care that its not solid???? NO as I said I want a light hauler and good handling and passenger comfort.

The whole point of this thread was to hear from actual users of this vehicle and people with the same powertrain to find out how good and how they like it. Not "this isn't a real truck blah blah". I don't want to hear it.

So please any more posts please be beneficial, and for goodness sake, actually read what I posted in the first place instead of just posting.
 
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Meh what's the point of a truck with IRS, and no frame? I guess if your just hauling some furniture around once in awhile its fine.

But they are not real trucks, just upgraded minivans with the back's chopped off.

Plenty for most people though.

Spoken like a 'real truck' guy....am I right? Your post is inaccurate and contains a bit of exaggeration, don't you think?
The Ridgeline will haul FAR more than 'some furniture'. And the repeated mini-van quip has gotten old. It's nothing of the kind.
Is it body on frame and built to haul a 10,000 pound trailer? No. But it's not intended to do that. Besides, all the nonsense about what a 'real' truck is, is nothing more than talk. All modern vehicles have undergone many changes. What you call a 'real' truck is what some old timers might call a bunch of cheap plastic, thin metal, and fancy-pants interior. But it's silly anyway. Who cares. If it works well for what a person buys it for, all the slights in the world only make the the person spouting them seem somehow....small.
Just my opinion.


I'm not a truck guy at all, I hate trucks. To me a truck isn't much different than a shovel, or a screw driver. Just a tool for a job, and to make money. I cannot understand why someone would buy a truck to drive around, to just drive, when there are so many superior cars available.

Just like their are different sized sockets, they make different sized trucks.

Since IMHO the Ridgeline for its size is not work efficient, (beds to small) I don't really care for it.

I will agree that as PURELY a WORK vehicle....the Ridgeline is not suited. But is it marketed as such? Is it intended to be seen on the work-site along side F250's? I think not.
What the Ridgeline IS good for is what 90% of what MOST truck owners use trucks for. I've seen hundreds of huge trucks used as nothing more than to be driven to the mall or perhaps pull a light trailer or haul a load of bark. All of which the Ridgeline can do while still having the road manners and comfort of something much better than a pickup.
 
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
I will disagree with you here, their is a reason no real truck uses IRS or even IFS.


You're a bit mistaken. The HMMWV has used IFS and IRS since the get-go, from 1984. The empty weight of a HMMWV is nearly 6,000 pounds, with a rated payload of 2,500-4,400 pounds.

The HMMWV's replacement, the MRAP, also uses IFS and IRS. A third party upgrade available for these, from AxleTech, is rated at 25,000 pounds per axle. Heavy duty indeed.

The M1117 also uses independent suspension, front and rear. Its dry weight is nearly 30,000 pounds.

Clearly, heavy duty vehicles do use independent suspension, and independent suspension has demonstrated its durability over decades in heavy duty use.

Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
It simply cannot handle the weight of heavy loads, and no its not safe to have a ton of chamber like that on tires, when your carrying a lot. That's how you ruin your wheel bearings and could break an axle too.


The alignment characteristic is 'camber', and it's very safe. In fact, it provides more vehicle stability and improved vehicle handling than having zero camber, as with a live solid axle. Wheel bearings are desinged for this, and no, you cannot "break an axle". You realize, of course, that there is no actual load on the axles themselves. The axles (CV shafts) ride in bearings on both sides and are "full floating" to steal a term from the solid axle glossary. No matter how much weight you do or don't load into the back of an IRS vehicle, the suspension "load" on the axles is the same, because they bear no weight.

It looks, visually, as if the "axles" are bending under the weight of the load. But that's not happening at all. The suspension geometry is producing exactly what the engineers desired: negative camber gain with wheel travel. As stated earlier, this improves vehicle stability and handling, which becomes increasingly important as the load increases.
 
Since we're correcting spelling, is that 'designed' you were posting there? (j/k)

And note that more weight does indeed add load to the halfshafts, as they must deal with the inertia of the load onboard versus the drivetrain.

The key on the camber is is it excessive or not? For most the loaded down situation is extremely short term, thus no problem.

I also like what the OP said, because it's obvious the Ridgeline will do just fine for him.
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Since we're correcting spelling, is that 'designed' you were posting there? (j/k)


No, I meant "desinged". You know, they take the "sing" out of the bearing so it's quiet on the road.

Um...yeah... LOL

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
And note that more weight does indeed add load to the halfshafts, as they must deal with the inertia of the load onboard versus the drivetrain.)


Torsional load, yes...any added weight, whether in the bed or towing will add that type of load to every part of the drivetrain. Because of its context, I read the original statement to mean that increased payload in the bed would break an axle because of the vertical load on the suspension. This would not happen. But yes, saddle any axle shaft to forces for which it isn't designed, or desinged, and you'll run into trouble.
 
A lot of people do not understand IRS. Even the properly "desinged" kind!

I remember when the SRT8 first came out everyone said it could never cut a good quarter mile due to the IRS.

Actually comes out of the hole pretty good, I've run many a 1.8x 60 foot time on regular street tires with good track prep.
 
I remember saying that I'd never own anything with IRS. No, it was V-8 engines and solid axles for me, thanks. Of course, my tastes evolve and I really appreciate the engineering behind independent suspension systems, and the benefits those types of systems provide. Due to a variety of factors, they're not the most appropriate choice for every application, but my mind has really opened up to the notion that there's some really cool stuff to experience out there, and it might not necessarily fit my already-conceived ideas about what is good and what is not.
 
Funny thing....I used to own an '06 Ridgeline. Loved it. A divorce and some nasty financial worries prompted me to sell it only after a year or two of ownership. Recently, I've been in the market for a pickup. My girlfriend also said it would be nice to have one as well as useful. I thus began a search for a simple, reliable, and comfortable 4x4 capable pickup. I had thought that with some compromise (space being the main one), I would just settle for a base model Toyota 4 cylinder pickup. Then, the girlfriend tells me she's not a stick driver and wonders how we will take our dogs and luggage on any kind of road trip in a smaller Toyota like that. I said ok....and then though that a larger access cab, V-6 would work better. Price for what we wanted? About $25k out the door. I decided no way. Just did not like the modest seating nor the look of the access cab Toyota. You know what happened? We went to look at a Honda Ridgeline. I certainly knew all about them....but when my girlfriend saw it she really liked it. Very roomy, comfortable, odd but unique exterior, and even the base RT was nicely done inside and out. Being a last of the year model (2012), they were eager to get rid of it. We ended up getting it for a few grand under MSRP plus great financing with my 825 credit rating. Traded in an '04 Grand Marquis as well. I know the Ridge is not a true 'truck'....but it is a pickup. A highly useful pickup really. It's not changed much at all since they first came out (they improved the HP/torque just barely and reduced friction in the engine....increasing mpg's a tiny bit....plus some very mild aerodynamic stuff), but I really love this vehicle all over again. Smooth as as can be and all the power I will ever need. Plus...let the snow fall (I will be ready).
Anyway....just thought I'd post that I liked my old Ridge enough to buy another one. That should speak for itself.
 
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