Any Consensus on Fram Oil Filters Here?
- Thread starter GreasyG
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Slick, I think you have unwittingly "stepped in it" ...
So I offer a joking and somewhat pointed retort to your quest, in jest.
So, by posting a question yourself, you'll be able to find it? But if someone else posted the same question (about a thousand times by now at a bare minimum), you can't seem to find it?
So the search button in the upper right hand corner is elusive?
The only consensus is that there's no consensus.
There is no cardboard. Some of their products have resin reinforced fiber caps. It's been that way for a long time. And, despite the implied heresy, we've not seen these "cardboard" endcaps come flying off and being ingested by the engines.
Too late ...
You're welcome after the fact.
Thx to you for your service.
Well I didn't, so apparently your conception powers could stand a tune-up, Bob.
For better or worse I have allowed an overnight drain once or twice over the years, and been pre-filling my filters since at least the mid (if not early) 1980's.
Millions and millions of cars are motoring on with the cheapest possible jobber oil filters and bulk oil in them and they don't appear to be suffering. Before I joined this site and started overthinking things I pretty much exclusively used Fram Extra Guard or Super Tech filters and store brand conventional oil and nothing bad ever happened.
But none of them are owned by BITOG members.
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When in doubt, you can always go OEM instead. I wouldn't use their lower end offering these days even if it does work for their mileage rating as with any other economy filters I won't extend 3000-5000 miles on them and replace at OE intervals. Their upper range and high end oil filters are said to be very good and verified by an independent laboratory test posted in this forum years ago.
There is one guy that ran one for 10K miles and held up pretty well.
All in all just go with what you like. Most retail store decent branded aftermarket oil filters you'll get off the shelf are just as good if not some built better than an OEM filter.
The underlying message I get is you're a hardcore FRAM fan.
LoL ... it's called facts. There is no proof that non-metal end caps don't work, or are "bad". If they are "bad", what makes them bad if they work as intended? Where is the poof they are "bad", expect from people who say they are just parroting with no actual proof they are bad?If I read in between the lines, I'd say you're a hardcore FRAM fan.
The only thing holding that filter up is its metal center core. It's like the "pole barn" principle.
All oil filters have some kind of center tube, regardless of what kind of end caps are used. It's not the end caps job to "hold up" the filter. The function of the end caps is to provide a sealing surface for the pleat ends and the area around the center tube on the end caps.The only thing holding that filter up is its metal center core. It's like the "pole barn" principle.
What do you think the real purpose of a center tube is?
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Structural integrity. I learned that term from aircraft mechanics school. It's another way of saying, "makes it stronger."
The other purpose is to provide a pathway for the oil to flow from the outside of the filter element to the inside of the filter element.
Structural integrity of what? Makes what stronger? Yes, this is a quiz.Structural integrity. I learned that term from aircraft mechanics school. It's another way of saying, "makes it stronger."
The oil would still flow from the outside the the inside of the filter element even if there was no center tube. So another misconception, lol.The other purpose is to provide a pathway for the oil to flow from the outside of the filter element to the inside of the filter element.
An oil filter is like a spool used to hold electrical wire. The only difference is there's a filter between the hollow core and the outer flanges.Structural integrity of what? Makes what stronger? Yes, this is a quiz.
The oil would still flow from the outside the the inside of the filter element even if there was no center tube. So another misconception, lol.
If you've looked closely at some filters with floating center tubes, and some of the Fram filters with fiber end caps, the center tubes are not always as long as the distance between the end caps. Which means they aren't really fully acting to "prop up" the element. With all the pleats in compression, that proves a lot of resistance from the element compressing. The main purpose of the center tube is not to "prop up" the element assemble, but yes the center tubes can certainly help take some compressive forces off the pleats. A center tube's main purpose is to give the media some structural integrity so the media doesn't get blown out from the delta-p created by the oil flowing through it, and sending into the oiling system.An oil filter is like a spool used to hold electrical wire. The only difference is there's a filter between the hollow core and the outer flanges.
Again, where's the real evidence/proof that non-metal end caps are "bad"? Where's all the "proof" that they are failing and causing problems?
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dnewton3
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If fiber end caps are so associated only with a "cheap" mentality, then why do Bently OE filters come with fiber end caps? If any brand could afford "the best", it would be a Bently customer. And yet fiber end caps are on Bently OE filters. So they can't be as bad as some folks believe.
Fiber end caps work fine; it's just that simple.
Fiber end caps work fine; it's just that simple.
Lots of people on YouTube are just parrots repeating something they've heard, and have no real understanding of oil filters.
Stop feeding the trolls guys!
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