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See post #27
Another oil from Valvoline…
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Except HPL has actually justified its pricing, by telling us nearly every detail about their oil’s makeup without disclosing IP, and having proven its oil in over 2 billion miles of use in one of the most challenging fleet applications.
All Valvoline has given us so far is a marketing pitch with vague terms and even less solid information. As well-formulated as it was, PBR was never intended for continuous use per Valvoline/Cummins; it was a “use it if you need it” with the implication you would go back to the original oil once cleaning was completed. It was also never rated for use in gasoline engines, even though some BITOG members did apparently use it as such. PBR did also not appear to have the extended drain capability of HPL’s products, which further increases the true price differential between those “competing” products. Lastly, at least in this case so far, all we have is marketing info and no confirmation that this new “Protect and Restore” will perform similarly to the PBR.
With all of the objective data the board has generated re:HPL products, all I see here is Valvoline helping to steer some people into HPL’s corner if the pricing is similar. HPL is not only a private American-owned success story, but its performance is well-proven by this point.
Cool to see new products in the “plebe” market, but according to most comments here, the $50+/gal market for engine oils is nearly already saturated. Maybe we’ll actually see this Valvoline product on shelves at some point; I seem to remember HPL delivered the No VII product line in about 2 weeks
. Lol
dang... someone beat me to it...
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i was at that game. Nolan Ryan was already legendary by that time, and beating the pine tar out of a cocky RV who was basically half his age just cemented his place as the baddest dude to ever say his job was to stand on the rubber, in my book.This oil -vs- all others:
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I’ll refrain from commenting on the “biggest breakthru in 150 years” until after we see third-party testing on this vaporware’s real-world performance. @wwillson already has some good data to compare all challengers against, IMO…
Seeing is believing lets see an engine with 200,000 mile teardown and video.
Even 100k with before and after measurements is worthwhile and informative
Figures since I've been using EP. A lot of EP oils being sold these days though so I'd be surprised to see them get out of that market.
It’s probably their EP relabeled
Entirely different oil from the product description.
The fine print states “up to 100% piston deposit removal when used as directed for four or more consecutive oil changes at standard maintenance intervals, based on adapted sequence IIIH testing”
I think it will be a great hit for valvoline. That piston looks way too clean compared to anything out of seq IIIH I have seen.
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Still did not find RaP on Walmart.com …
So two years of using their product. Since I change my oil every six months or five thousand miles.
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